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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Allandaros" data-source="post: 3322024" data-attributes="member: 30073">Heh. I started out with 2e, and later acquired the 1e books - and found the 1e DMG to be chock-fulla awesomeness. The PHB - not so much, but still pretty darn cool. I think I fall in the camp of "2e rules, 1e flavor." As for 3e, I refused to even look at it for many years, on the grounds that they flat-out canceled support for 2e (as opposed to the old D&D game, or 1e, both of which gradually tapered off - as I understand it). I've only recently begun to take a look, and while there are many things I like, it's not "D&D to me". (Yes, this has tones reminiscent of the Edition Wars thread. I'm not making a global statement here, just a personal one.) This is partially why I'm searching for <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=187290" target="_blank">variant settings with altered rules</a> - I can still use the 3.5e mechanics, but in a non-"D&D" setting. As for S&P, I have some of the books. A few rules aren't too bad. Most are cumbersome and clunky and leading to rules bloat. So I generally don't use 'em. (Confession: I made my character - the one this account is named after - a bladesinger after reading The Complete Handbook of Elves. In my defense, I was in seventh grade, and I did ditch the stupid kit after a few years.)</blockquote>