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<blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 3325501" data-attributes="member: 9225">It obviously means neither, as you're trying to define one or more optional books as corebooks. The PHB, DMG and MM were the 2e corebooks.There are several substantial differences to 2e, many of which made it to 3e, like:* Int bonus for proficiencies.* Massive death threshold.* Bard class.* Light armor combat and a major revision for the ranger.* Specialist wizards.* Non-generic priests.* Thieves without hardcoded abilities.* Much different initiative, surprise and weapon vs armor rules. * Critical hits and rules to defend instead of attack.* Called shots.* And more . . .UA was one of the most error-ridden books ever produced by TSR, and introduced multiple new systems that didn't balance properly agains existing rules. When you print the Cavalier's HD incorrectly, that ain't good.If 2e was nothing more than an update of 1e, how could 1e players be aliented by a rules system you say is substantially the same? Not that these alienated people probably played 1e RAW . . .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eyebeams, post: 3325501, member: 9225"] It obviously means neither, as you're trying to define one or more optional books as corebooks. The PHB, DMG and MM were the 2e corebooks. There are several substantial differences to 2e, many of which made it to 3e, like: * Int bonus for proficiencies. * Massive death threshold. * Bard class. * Light armor combat and a major revision for the ranger. * Specialist wizards. * Non-generic priests. * Thieves without hardcoded abilities. * Much different initiative, surprise and weapon vs armor rules. * Critical hits and rules to defend instead of attack. * Called shots. * And more . . . UA was one of the most error-ridden books ever produced by TSR, and introduced multiple new systems that didn't balance properly agains existing rules. When you print the Cavalier's HD incorrectly, that ain't good. If 2e was nothing more than an update of 1e, how could 1e players be aliented by a rules system you say is substantially the same? Not that these alienated people probably played 1e RAW . . . [/QUOTE]

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