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<blockquote data-quote="tx7321" data-source="post: 3329079" data-attributes="member: 43146">jDawg: &quot;&quot;I've seen this very frequently from you--you make very extraordinary claims about what 1e and 1e alone can do, when in fact your claims are not all the remarkable&quot;This just came off as an attack to me (perhaps I'm being paranoid).&nbsp; &quot;very extraordinary claims&quot; (sounds like I'm saying bush is actually an alien), &quot;your claims are not all that remarkable&quot; (here it sounds like I was trying to be remarkable rather then make a point).Anyhow, I don't see anything &quot;remarkable&quot; about saying 3E is more confusing to players then 1E.&nbsp; That it reduces play into button like moves (I &quot;jump&quot; I &quot;tumble&quot; I &quot;bluff&quot;) found on many video games, or that not using tables reduces the mystery for the players (and increases their work load). Those are, in a nut shell, my comments about 3E, and of course I sometimes compare them to 1E.&nbsp;&nbsp; But thats not extraordinary.&nbsp; Its old recycled garbage from the edition war era.&nbsp; Its been said by others 100 times over, &quot;very extraordinary claim&quot; how about very ordinary and not particularly original.&nbsp;&nbsp; As far as what the &quot;1E Feel&quot; is. Well, you have to play 1E for a while, and then compare it to 3E.&nbsp; I suppose that it'll be slightly different for each person.&nbsp; Just be sure to use the 1E core books.&nbsp;&nbsp; Hell, try playing BTB with all the rules and see how you like it.&nbsp; I went to hating 1Es level restrictions to likeing them (now that I understand why theyre there).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tx7321, post: 3329079, member: 43146"] jDawg: ""I've seen this very frequently from you--you make very extraordinary claims about what 1e and 1e alone can do, when in fact your claims are not all the remarkable" This just came off as an attack to me (perhaps I'm being paranoid). "very extraordinary claims" (sounds like I'm saying bush is actually an alien), "your claims are not all that remarkable" (here it sounds like I was trying to be remarkable rather then make a point). Anyhow, I don't see anything "remarkable" about saying 3E is more confusing to players then 1E. That it reduces play into button like moves (I "jump" I "tumble" I "bluff") found on many video games, or that not using tables reduces the mystery for the players (and increases their work load). Those are, in a nut shell, my comments about 3E, and of course I sometimes compare them to 1E. But thats not extraordinary. Its old recycled garbage from the edition war era. Its been said by others 100 times over, "very extraordinary claim" how about very ordinary and not particularly original. As far as what the "1E Feel" is. Well, you have to play 1E for a while, and then compare it to 3E. I suppose that it'll be slightly different for each person. Just be sure to use the 1E core books. Hell, try playing BTB with all the rules and see how you like it. I went to hating 1Es level restrictions to likeing them (now that I understand why theyre there). [/QUOTE]

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