Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
No Second Edition Love?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tx7321" data-source="post: 3329079" data-attributes="member: 43146"><p>jDawg: ""I've seen this very frequently from you--you make very extraordinary claims about what 1e and 1e alone can do, when in fact your claims are not all the remarkable"</p><p></p><p>This just came off as an attack to me (perhaps I'm being paranoid). "very extraordinary claims" (sounds like I'm saying bush is actually an alien), "your claims are not all that remarkable" (here it sounds like I was trying to be remarkable rather then make a point).</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I don't see anything "remarkable" about saying 3E is more confusing to players then 1E. That it reduces play into button like moves (I "jump" I "tumble" I "bluff") found on many video games, or that not using tables reduces the mystery for the players (and increases their work load). Those are, in a nut shell, my comments about 3E, and of course I sometimes compare them to 1E. But thats not extraordinary. Its old recycled garbage from the edition war era. Its been said by others 100 times over, "very extraordinary claim" how about very ordinary and not particularly original. </p><p></p><p>As far as what the "1E Feel" is. Well, you have to play 1E for a while, and then compare it to 3E. I suppose that it'll be slightly different for each person. Just be sure to use the 1E core books. Hell, try playing BTB with all the rules and see how you like it. I went to hating 1Es level restrictions to likeing them (now that I understand why theyre there).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tx7321, post: 3329079, member: 43146"] jDawg: ""I've seen this very frequently from you--you make very extraordinary claims about what 1e and 1e alone can do, when in fact your claims are not all the remarkable" This just came off as an attack to me (perhaps I'm being paranoid). "very extraordinary claims" (sounds like I'm saying bush is actually an alien), "your claims are not all that remarkable" (here it sounds like I was trying to be remarkable rather then make a point). Anyhow, I don't see anything "remarkable" about saying 3E is more confusing to players then 1E. That it reduces play into button like moves (I "jump" I "tumble" I "bluff") found on many video games, or that not using tables reduces the mystery for the players (and increases their work load). Those are, in a nut shell, my comments about 3E, and of course I sometimes compare them to 1E. But thats not extraordinary. Its old recycled garbage from the edition war era. Its been said by others 100 times over, "very extraordinary claim" how about very ordinary and not particularly original. As far as what the "1E Feel" is. Well, you have to play 1E for a while, and then compare it to 3E. I suppose that it'll be slightly different for each person. Just be sure to use the 1E core books. Hell, try playing BTB with all the rules and see how you like it. I went to hating 1Es level restrictions to likeing them (now that I understand why theyre there). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
No Second Edition Love?
Top