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<blockquote data-quote="tx7321" data-source="post: 3337608" data-attributes="member: 43146">Its possible when I was first playing 3E it was so fresh everyone was expressing their mastery of the rules outloud which gave me this impression.&nbsp; Perhaps once all the rules were pointed out, and the DM fell in line with them, things would have settled down.&nbsp; We never go that far though.&nbsp; PirateCat,We still have 1E players in our group who have never DMed (after over 25 years).&nbsp; To them the tables and how things work are still a mystery...litteraly.&nbsp; Some players just don't feel the desire to DM I guess.&nbsp; Anyhow, sometimes when we play we intentionally talk about the rules (esp. lately) to figure out as a group how there supposed to work.&nbsp; Once we figure those out we drop rules discussion altogether.&nbsp;&nbsp; When we get an outside player who doesn't agree with our interpretations, we shut them down by saying &quot;well, thats how I see it, consider it a house rule&quot; and the entire problem is defused.&nbsp;&nbsp; Rules lawyering is great when intentional, and can be alot of fun.&nbsp; When it sucks is when your starting new players into the game, trying to get them into the action, and some jerk starts interjecting how your doing this or that wrong.&nbsp; Not only does it break the momentum, it challanges the role of DM.&nbsp; These new players sit back and start wondering, just who is running the show?&nbsp; The DM...the players...no one?&nbsp; Again, this is just my personal experiance and not meant to be a sweeping comment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tx7321, post: 3337608, member: 43146"] Its possible when I was first playing 3E it was so fresh everyone was expressing their mastery of the rules outloud which gave me this impression. Perhaps once all the rules were pointed out, and the DM fell in line with them, things would have settled down. We never go that far though. PirateCat, We still have 1E players in our group who have never DMed (after over 25 years). To them the tables and how things work are still a mystery...litteraly. Some players just don't feel the desire to DM I guess. Anyhow, sometimes when we play we intentionally talk about the rules (esp. lately) to figure out as a group how there supposed to work. Once we figure those out we drop rules discussion altogether. When we get an outside player who doesn't agree with our interpretations, we shut them down by saying "well, thats how I see it, consider it a house rule" and the entire problem is defused. Rules lawyering is great when intentional, and can be alot of fun. When it sucks is when your starting new players into the game, trying to get them into the action, and some jerk starts interjecting how your doing this or that wrong. Not only does it break the momentum, it challanges the role of DM. These new players sit back and start wondering, just who is running the show? The DM...the players...no one? Again, this is just my personal experiance and not meant to be a sweeping comment. [/QUOTE]

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