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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tx7321" data-source="post: 3342526" data-attributes="member: 43146">Hussar: "1 person's general description, bugs me a bit since I've always tried to get my player's actively involved in driving the campaign. I feel that my player's have likely been spoonfed campaigns in the past where the DM had entire control of his own private railroad and any deviation was punished with the flaming booger of the gawds. YMMV."-What I meant was that the DM creates the world in his mind and then describes it as the players move about it freely.  I too am no fan of railroads.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />REM: "In 1e (by your discussion) the PC rolls a 1d20 and adds his +2 bonus. He gives a total. The DM now determines (by chart) what that answer equates to (17 for a ftr2 is AC 2) and cross-references that against the orcs AC (2 >5, so a hit). The DM now is handling the bulk of the work. -Ahhhhhhhh I'm lost.    All the DM does is look on the fighter table to see what a 2nd level fighter needs to hit AC 7 (or whatever the AC of the monster is).  The DM does the same for the monster.  What the heck  are you talking about?  Looking at tables is brainless work, a 6 year old can do that part.  There is no work thats what the tables are for.  If you consider moving your head work...then I guess its work. The PC has no idea if he missed the Orc due to poor ability or good AC. However, the DM has to constantly be doing that math for all players all the time. -What math.  1E doesn't have math it has tables.  Thats why it has tables, so you don't have to do math. Quick! A fireball explodes on a group of PCs. A 5th level fighter, a 3rd/3rd level fighter/mage, a 6th level thief, and a 4th level cleric all have to save vs. spell. What do they have to roll higher than to succeed? Can you do it without looking? "Thats why I look at the table.  I can figure that out in about 10 seconds. The F/M you just use the best save table (so M for magic).</blockquote>

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