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No spell resistance vs. Orb spells? Why?
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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 3463639" data-attributes="member: 743"><p>Because their SR (as stated by another poster) is higher than the average for their CR. The energy resistance was just icing on the cake.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It'll be hard. They have to be fair enough to matter, general enough to matter across the course of a wizard's career, and extreme enough in their differences between orbs and AoEs to show the imbalance clearly. For the reconrd, I don't believe the 4 earth elementals to be fair enough to matter, because they're weighted too strongly in favor of the AoE spell.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd prefer play reports from people running campaigns to numbers, because I'm not sure my criteria for numbers in this case is meetable. I'm afraid that encounters in a campaign are too disparate to generate enough sets of data to account for a large enough percentage of them that one can say "see, orbs are unbalanced." Icould be wrong though, so please feel free to try.</p><p></p><p>In my experience, running campaign games and arena games, the orbs are not unbalanced. They're a lot stronger in the arena games because the fights are almost always one on one, but I havn't seen them be demonstrably overpowered in enough situations to warrant a change. There are others who have posted that in their experiences the orbs also aren't broken. It's about as useful as firsthand experiences usually are (i.e. hardly at all without a sizeable sampling) but it's better to me that a few specific situations set up specifically to prove or disprove a point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 3463639, member: 743"] Because their SR (as stated by another poster) is higher than the average for their CR. The energy resistance was just icing on the cake. It'll be hard. They have to be fair enough to matter, general enough to matter across the course of a wizard's career, and extreme enough in their differences between orbs and AoEs to show the imbalance clearly. For the reconrd, I don't believe the 4 earth elementals to be fair enough to matter, because they're weighted too strongly in favor of the AoE spell. Personally, I'd prefer play reports from people running campaigns to numbers, because I'm not sure my criteria for numbers in this case is meetable. I'm afraid that encounters in a campaign are too disparate to generate enough sets of data to account for a large enough percentage of them that one can say "see, orbs are unbalanced." Icould be wrong though, so please feel free to try. In my experience, running campaign games and arena games, the orbs are not unbalanced. They're a lot stronger in the arena games because the fights are almost always one on one, but I havn't seen them be demonstrably overpowered in enough situations to warrant a change. There are others who have posted that in their experiences the orbs also aren't broken. It's about as useful as firsthand experiences usually are (i.e. hardly at all without a sizeable sampling) but it's better to me that a few specific situations set up specifically to prove or disprove a point. [/QUOTE]
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