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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 2198708" data-attributes="member: 4049">First, although The Penguin is a chub, he has often been portrayed as more than capable in fisticuffs.  He's startled The Batman a few times in their confrontations with his sudden and agile moves and he is trained in the martial arts.  There's nothing in the comics supporting the level of expertise this new cartoon version highlights, but it's not a terrible stretch.Second, the Mr. Freeze most people are familiar with is the one popularized by TAS.  While I think that version (which was adopted by the horrendous Batman and Robin and the comics) is fantastic, it was not the original version of the character.  In the 50s, when he was created (IIRC), he was a thief that got into a terrible accident that resulted in his dependancy on a constant sub-zero temperature.  So, in a way, this version of the character is far closer to the original (and dull) original concept.I am of two minds on the show.  On the one hand, I love the animation.  Although I adore the highly stylized TAS (and subsequent Superman and JLA) animations, I admire the smoothness and almost anime aspects of this version.  It's full of energy and dazzle while maintaining the darkness required for The Batman.  On the other hand, I detest the light-hearted nature of the show as well as the designs for most of the villains.  Also, the lack of other key personalities, particularly Gordon, really bugs mne.  The design on The Joker is completely idiotic.  While his face is terrifying, everything else about him is a let-down.  I don't mind his ability to fight (until the late 80s, The Joker was depicted as more than capable in handling his own against The Batman for short periods of time), I do mind his design and the fact that he's not as sadistic as he should be.  Yes, I know this is a show that comes on at 10:30 A.M. Saturday mornings, but so what?  So did TAS eventually and it maintained its dark appeal.</blockquote>

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