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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Razjah" data-source="post: 6292528" data-attributes="member: 98806">I don't think pulling wizards from the setting is that bad. The scholarly thing can easily be done with druids, clerics, sorcerers, and warlocks. Just because you have natural talent to cast a spell doesn't mean you don't need to practice and study to make it happen. The wizards make items a lot, but finding items in the world could easily be made from past civilizations/gods/etc like normal. As for having someone study magic, without being able to actually do anything with that knowledge, it seems rather strange to me. I'd just use the existing classes. Plus it allows for the sorcerer class to finally learn a spell not seen in the world. With wizards, it is implied that basically all of magic is known. The sorcerer can just produce the effects spontaneously. I'd rather a world where there is no Bigby or Evard. Black Tentacles is a devastating ability that terrifies locals or earns someone awe as they ruined a goblin raid with a single spell. I know it can be done with wizards still in the game, but it isn't implied the same way.</blockquote>