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<blockquote data-quote="Glade Riven" data-source="post: 5784348" data-attributes="member: 86468"><p>Turn Undead mechanics in 3e/3.5. Never quite understood how it worked. In fact, I'm not sure anyone understands how it works. Nobody in any of my groups did. I think it required a player to have some metagame knowledge on how many HD enemies had. Typically decended into some sort of ad-hoc house-ruling. Pathfinder's Channel Energy is superior, or if the game simply had it work like the Fear spell, only that it effected undead who didn't make their will save.</p><p> </p><p>Fighter-only feats are kinda dumb, regardless of edition. This usually gets house ruled rather quickly. Oh, I understand the point is to try and give the fighter's<em> something special</em>, but d20 modern's talent tree system would have been better way of handling it.</p><p> </p><p>Exponential power curves over the course of leveling up. Above level 12, the power curve should start to level out, with less gains per level (one reason e6 is popular on the forum). I've considered running my game as an e12 game, but we're only @ level 1 right now so there's time to decide on it and talk it over with my players once they understand how the game works. One of the better things I've heard about 2e and before is that the game did this (in most cases). 3e got a little nuts with the power curve (mostly on casters), 4e and Pathfinder have tried to flatten the curve into a straight line progression with...mixed results.</p><p> </p><p>Skill sets seem extremely limited based on class. I'd rather have a secondary background "occupation" that determined class skills instead. 3e and 4e encouraged overspecialization to the point of ridiculessness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glade Riven, post: 5784348, member: 86468"] Turn Undead mechanics in 3e/3.5. Never quite understood how it worked. In fact, I'm not sure anyone understands how it works. Nobody in any of my groups did. I think it required a player to have some metagame knowledge on how many HD enemies had. Typically decended into some sort of ad-hoc house-ruling. Pathfinder's Channel Energy is superior, or if the game simply had it work like the Fear spell, only that it effected undead who didn't make their will save. Fighter-only feats are kinda dumb, regardless of edition. This usually gets house ruled rather quickly. Oh, I understand the point is to try and give the fighter's[I] something special[/I], but d20 modern's talent tree system would have been better way of handling it. Exponential power curves over the course of leveling up. Above level 12, the power curve should start to level out, with less gains per level (one reason e6 is popular on the forum). I've considered running my game as an e12 game, but we're only @ level 1 right now so there's time to decide on it and talk it over with my players once they understand how the game works. One of the better things I've heard about 2e and before is that the game did this (in most cases). 3e got a little nuts with the power curve (mostly on casters), 4e and Pathfinder have tried to flatten the curve into a straight line progression with...mixed results. Skill sets seem extremely limited based on class. I'd rather have a secondary background "occupation" that determined class skills instead. 3e and 4e encouraged overspecialization to the point of ridiculessness. [/QUOTE]
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