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<blockquote data-quote="GlassEye" data-source="post: 6095175" data-attributes="member: 40413"><p>Songdragon, your proposal is just for reinstating the Nobility domain to its original state, correct? I think whether or not Leadership is an available feat is peripheral to the request and only mentioned because it wasn't explicitly stated on the wiki as being prohibited. Leadership as a feat is a separate discussion from this one that, admittedly, affects this discussion. I feel like this proposal is being dismissed based on the effects of Leadership available to everyone as a feat.</p><p></p><p>Considering just the proposal made by Songdragon (and continuing with our mutual assumption that Leadership in general is prohibited):</p><p></p><p>• Leadership IS a class feature. As such, it would be available to a very select group of characters: 8th+ level clerics with the Nobility domain (possibly Inquisitors, but I'm not sure about that). So we're NOT discussing a scenario that allows for a fighter to take Leadership with a feat and end up with a transmutation wizard cohort. Nor will we end up with every character in LPF having Leadership much like not everyone has gotten an intelligent item since those rules were approved.</p><p></p><p>• Who controls the cohort? The Leadership feat says the cohort is an NPC. Personally, I think that means the DM is supposed to control the cohort and I would agree with Perrinmiller that I don't want to mess with that as a DM. However, I don't object to the player controlling the cohort with the caveat that the DM could take control of the cohort when she deems it necessary.</p><p></p><p>• Flexibility of a cohort build vs. specific 'tasks' other companion types are designed for. This is an interesting point. Eidolons are pretty darn flexible, though, and can gain a whole lot more in the way of supernatural powers than a cohort could. And some of the upper level familiars are pretty flexible, too.</p><p></p><p>• Plus, intelligent items are available. Isn't that just a cohort you can buy with gold pieces?</p><p></p><p>I think specific issues could be worked out so that this is possible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GlassEye, post: 6095175, member: 40413"] Songdragon, your proposal is just for reinstating the Nobility domain to its original state, correct? I think whether or not Leadership is an available feat is peripheral to the request and only mentioned because it wasn't explicitly stated on the wiki as being prohibited. Leadership as a feat is a separate discussion from this one that, admittedly, affects this discussion. I feel like this proposal is being dismissed based on the effects of Leadership available to everyone as a feat. Considering just the proposal made by Songdragon (and continuing with our mutual assumption that Leadership in general is prohibited): • Leadership IS a class feature. As such, it would be available to a very select group of characters: 8th+ level clerics with the Nobility domain (possibly Inquisitors, but I'm not sure about that). So we're NOT discussing a scenario that allows for a fighter to take Leadership with a feat and end up with a transmutation wizard cohort. Nor will we end up with every character in LPF having Leadership much like not everyone has gotten an intelligent item since those rules were approved. • Who controls the cohort? The Leadership feat says the cohort is an NPC. Personally, I think that means the DM is supposed to control the cohort and I would agree with Perrinmiller that I don't want to mess with that as a DM. However, I don't object to the player controlling the cohort with the caveat that the DM could take control of the cohort when she deems it necessary. • Flexibility of a cohort build vs. specific 'tasks' other companion types are designed for. This is an interesting point. Eidolons are pretty darn flexible, though, and can gain a whole lot more in the way of supernatural powers than a cohort could. And some of the upper level familiars are pretty flexible, too. • Plus, intelligent items are available. Isn't that just a cohort you can buy with gold pieces? I think specific issues could be worked out so that this is possible. [/QUOTE]
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