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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2543289" data-attributes="member: 35678">hello everyone,sorry to get a little off the main topic here, but something i have been toying with is simply a line of a few feats that make you a "Nobleman/Noblewomen" but i ahvent worked on that at all lately (races have been a biggy as of late). Elaborating on what smootrk said before, in a medieval society such as europe had, the Fighter class is actually a nobleman. the best weapons, armours, etc were only availiable to them. it is in fantasy gaming and arthurian legend that the nobleman is a social butterfly, with courtly skills, etc. When the crusades started up, the average young noblemen had been trained for all his life in the "art" of war, and they rushed off to fight infidels and the such (mainly because in many christian areas, the popes at the time had forbidden inter-aristocratic bickering/fighting, but infidels were not on that list).So, if you were to want a true representative of an average European Noble, take the fighter class, cut his feats in ahlf, and give him a few abilities from the list you have, give him a few (very few) extra skills, and 4 skills+Int per level. but that is my humble (and, after taking a look at this thread; spur of the moment) opinion. Take it of leave it, but mabye my info (and smootrk's) will help you with this.</blockquote>