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<blockquote data-quote="FourthBear" data-source="post: 3989491" data-attributes="member: 55846"><p>I certainly think the 4e classes as you described (socially oriented without significant combat focus) will be straightforward to create.&nbsp; The 4e talk has included statements that there will be more guidelines as to social challenges and the like (more than just &quot;Roll Diplomacy a bunch of times.&quot;)&nbsp; However, I suspect that you will have to either generate them yourself, wait for third party support or adapt them from classes from other games (like the Noble from Saga).&nbsp; One of the consistent messages from the 4e design team is that they want a D&amp;D PC class not to feel they have little to contribute to the various challenges most commonly found in D&amp;D.&nbsp; And in D&amp;D, combat is still the default common challenge.&nbsp; So a class without level-significant combat ability doesn't sound like anything you're going to find in the core or world books any time soon.&nbsp; That said, I think it will not be a problem for the 4e system to support such a class, if you don't think a player in your campaign would care overmuch about not being effective in combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="FourthBear, post: 3989491, member: 55846"] I certainly think the 4e classes as you described (socially oriented without significant combat focus) will be straightforward to create. The 4e talk has included statements that there will be more guidelines as to social challenges and the like (more than just "Roll Diplomacy a bunch of times.") However, I suspect that you will have to either generate them yourself, wait for third party support or adapt them from classes from other games (like the Noble from Saga). One of the consistent messages from the 4e design team is that they want a D&D PC class not to feel they have little to contribute to the various challenges most commonly found in D&D. And in D&D, combat is still the default common challenge. So a class without level-significant combat ability doesn't sound like anything you're going to find in the core or world books any time soon. That said, I think it will not be a problem for the 4e system to support such a class, if you don't think a player in your campaign would care overmuch about not being effective in combat. [/QUOTE]

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