Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
Nobles And Diplomats in 4e?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 3989632" data-attributes="member: 1054"><p>Right. I'm just interested if it will be lessened to the point where, in essence, there's no such thing as a non-combat focused class; it seems the current design model is to build for combat and then let players pick a few non-combat options if they want them. Based on what little we know about the divide between class abilities, talent trees, and feats, this means that there's no real room for a character whose combat abilities are secondary, with their "cool stuff" (their class abilities and talents) being focused on social encounters. </p><p></p><p>IOW, while what we know of the game allows you to take a fighter and give him a little diplomacy via feats, I'd like to know if it will support having a Diplomat who has picked up some combat training on the side. Most of the games I play are at least 50% roleplaying/social encounters, often more. It's good that Joe The Fighter will be useful, but it's nice to have at least one character who really shines in that environment, or have the system support classes who can be built for that environment primarily. </p><p></p><p>I haven't really studied the SAGA version of the Noble; I'll check it out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 3989632, member: 1054"] Right. I'm just interested if it will be lessened to the point where, in essence, there's no such thing as a non-combat focused class; it seems the current design model is to build for combat and then let players pick a few non-combat options if they want them. Based on what little we know about the divide between class abilities, talent trees, and feats, this means that there's no real room for a character whose combat abilities are secondary, with their "cool stuff" (their class abilities and talents) being focused on social encounters. IOW, while what we know of the game allows you to take a fighter and give him a little diplomacy via feats, I'd like to know if it will support having a Diplomat who has picked up some combat training on the side. Most of the games I play are at least 50% roleplaying/social encounters, often more. It's good that Joe The Fighter will be useful, but it's nice to have at least one character who really shines in that environment, or have the system support classes who can be built for that environment primarily. I haven't really studied the SAGA version of the Noble; I'll check it out. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
Nobles And Diplomats in 4e?
Top