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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2945666" data-attributes="member: 2477">I've seen that, and it's possible. They might also not want to get entangled financially. It's also possible they gave it a mercenary look and said "will the expense recoup the costs" and found it wouldn't.I do remember the year WotC products were ineligible for a lot of the awards, simply because the awards were all D20/OGL and they didn't "qualify". I don't think they've submitted since then, but not sure that it matters, given WotC's personaly turnovers since then.Possibly true, but almost EVERYTHING gets whipped over on the forums here, so I wouldn't take that bet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />That said, I'm sure my dislike of Shackled City is partly responsible for me entering this discussion, though not for my continueing to debate. (It just seemed like folks wanted to turn it into "publishers complaining" when I'm sure plenty of other folks agree with what is said.) I don't have the hardcover, but found Shackled City hard to integrate into differing playstyles and settings, way too specific, and most of the adventures were too odd to sync one after the other. Age of Worms was better for me, but the adventures lacked, IMO... that's neither here nor there though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />(Whispering Cairn SHOULD have been best adventure, lettuce follow the wisdom of Diaglo!)I think the best answer is the tiered award (gold, silver, bronze), if WotC got the Gold and someone else got the silver, they could still be content to know it. If WotC got the silver, then they could shout from the rooftops that they beat out Product X from WotC. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Yup, totally inconsequential. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I see the awards as what ENWorld likes best. That combines popularity as well as the underdog that gets championed. It's a good thing the awards are constantly evolving, IMO, but I think it should also be accepted that the "importance" of the awards isn't far beyond ENWorld, and that ENWorld is neither the center of RPGs/D20, nor representative of the hobby as a whole. They're useful and fun, though not sure they're worth the work/expense, that's not for me to judge, as I spend neither on them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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