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<blockquote data-quote="Shazman" data-source="post: 5264669" data-attributes="member: 13509"><p>MM1 isn't the only core book that is outdated. All of the first three core books have been outdated for some time due to massive rules updates that occur at a dizzying pace. Unless Essentials somehow addresses the two biggest faults of 4E: 1)Excessive combat length due to a serious discrepancy between PC offensive capability and monster defenses 2) Extremely metagamey, gamist elements that are so silly they ruin suspension of disbelief, then it will not be my RPG of choice. I may play 4E/essentials if I have nothing else to play or am in a group where the majority wants to play it for some reason, but it will not be my top choice for my D&D fix. While the Essentials classes look like they are trying to go back to the feel of the classes from past editions, I don't think it will be enough of a change to bring people who have not gone with 4E a reason to come back. I also really don't see how Essentials isn't 4.5, when the class structure is completely different from 4E classes and the core 4E books will no longer be in print. How are they going to mix with other classes as a hybrid? The hybrid rules are already wonky for psionic classes with power points mixed with other classes. I suspect the Essentials classes will have the same problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shazman, post: 5264669, member: 13509"] MM1 isn't the only core book that is outdated. All of the first three core books have been outdated for some time due to massive rules updates that occur at a dizzying pace. Unless Essentials somehow addresses the two biggest faults of 4E: 1)Excessive combat length due to a serious discrepancy between PC offensive capability and monster defenses 2) Extremely metagamey, gamist elements that are so silly they ruin suspension of disbelief, then it will not be my RPG of choice. I may play 4E/essentials if I have nothing else to play or am in a group where the majority wants to play it for some reason, but it will not be my top choice for my D&D fix. While the Essentials classes look like they are trying to go back to the feel of the classes from past editions, I don't think it will be enough of a change to bring people who have not gone with 4E a reason to come back. I also really don't see how Essentials isn't 4.5, when the class structure is completely different from 4E classes and the core 4E books will no longer be in print. How are they going to mix with other classes as a hybrid? The hybrid rules are already wonky for psionic classes with power points mixed with other classes. I suspect the Essentials classes will have the same problem. [/QUOTE]
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