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<blockquote data-quote="scadgrad" data-source="post: 5265684" data-attributes="member: 766">Nopers.After bailing on 3.X for C&amp;C, I still gave 4E a legitimate chance. Bought the first round of books, ran a couple of mods, and then it sort of hit me that the game didn't scratch my D&amp;D FRPG itch like older versions (and even 3.0) did. I'm a grognard, I do not deny that, but in my 30+ years in the hobby, I've been a fine customer. Hell, I was even fully invested in 2.0 (which I liked, just not as much as 1E). I don't understand from a business standpoint why WoTC doesn't want my money anymore. While I still buy RPGs (not theirs), does that mean that somehow, I'm not a &quot;lapsed customer&quot;? This sounds like one of those terri-bad moments where Smart Upper Management Dudes™ out think themselves. I can't see a company like Starbucks being flippant about my java dollars if I simply moved on to buy my Lattes from a competitor. &quot;Nah, we're good. We're simply going after those customers who haven't tried coffee yet or have stopped drinking it altogether. That's where the growth numbers are in our models.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scadgrad, post: 5265684, member: 766"] Nopers. After bailing on 3.X for C&C, I still gave 4E a legitimate chance. Bought the first round of books, ran a couple of mods, and then it sort of hit me that the game didn't scratch my D&D FRPG itch like older versions (and even 3.0) did. I'm a grognard, I do not deny that, but in my 30+ years in the hobby, I've been a fine customer. Hell, I was even fully invested in 2.0 (which I liked, just not as much as 1E). I don't understand from a business standpoint why WoTC doesn't want my money anymore. While I still buy RPGs (not theirs), does that mean that somehow, I'm not a "lapsed customer"? This sounds like one of those terri-bad moments where Smart Upper Management Dudes™ out think themselves. I can't see a company like Starbucks being flippant about my java dollars if I simply moved on to buy my Lattes from a competitor. "Nah, we're good. We're simply going after those customers who haven't tried coffee yet or have stopped drinking it altogether. That's where the growth numbers are in our models." [/QUOTE]

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