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<blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 4977946" data-attributes="member: 2303"><p>I have a Rogue and a Bard (<a href="http://hastur.net/wiki/Bard_(4E)" target="_blank">homebrew Dex bard build</a>) that have one persistent complaint; their Fortitude defense sucks beyond mortal comprehension. I banned the worst Feat-Tax feats, saying I'd hand these out free if needed, but their problem goes beyond this.</p><p></p><p>At level 15, both these worthies have a Fort defense of around 20. This means many of the critters they are fighting hit them on a roll of -2 or better (of course, a 1 is always a miss). In order for their Fort defense to be even marginally effective, they need a five point improvement, which is beyond what any of the feat tax feats gives. </p><p></p><p>Their reaction to Fortitude attacks is one of boredom; there is nothing they can do against them, so they see themselves as irrelevant against such attacks - especially controlling Fortitude area attacks, such as poison gas clouds.</p><p></p><p>I believe both these characters have a Con of 11 (they both had 18 for a prime stat), but that should not completely disqualify them from ANY chance to defend against Fortitude attacks. </p><p></p><p>So, is this a common phenomena? Is there some obvious rule I missed? Even with an 18 Con and the +2 to all defenses feat, they would still be hit by Fortitude attacks on 4+. Is this intended?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Starfox, post: 4977946, member: 2303"] I have a Rogue and a Bard ([url=http://hastur.net/wiki/Bard_(4E)]homebrew Dex bard build[/url]) that have one persistent complaint; their Fortitude defense sucks beyond mortal comprehension. I banned the worst Feat-Tax feats, saying I'd hand these out free if needed, but their problem goes beyond this. At level 15, both these worthies have a Fort defense of around 20. This means many of the critters they are fighting hit them on a roll of -2 or better (of course, a 1 is always a miss). In order for their Fort defense to be even marginally effective, they need a five point improvement, which is beyond what any of the feat tax feats gives. Their reaction to Fortitude attacks is one of boredom; there is nothing they can do against them, so they see themselves as irrelevant against such attacks - especially controlling Fortitude area attacks, such as poison gas clouds. I believe both these characters have a Con of 11 (they both had 18 for a prime stat), but that should not completely disqualify them from ANY chance to defend against Fortitude attacks. So, is this a common phenomena? Is there some obvious rule I missed? Even with an 18 Con and the +2 to all defenses feat, they would still be hit by Fortitude attacks on 4+. Is this intended? [/QUOTE]
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