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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 4982384" data-attributes="member: 1139">The premise of nothing but damage is fine.&nbsp; It's the implicit assumption &quot;when you raise your high FRW defense you can ignore attacks on your low defense&quot; that's flawed.If a defense is very low relative to the attacker's attack bonus, a plus to that defense won't give you the same benefit. For many characters/opponents, you won't get the full benefit of a FRW-boosting feat because the monster would have hit you on a 1 if not for the auto-miss rule, pre-feat (e.g., &quot;it hits on a -1 or better&quot;), so some of the benefit of a bonus (e.g., that from a feat) will be lost. I'll set that possibility aside.If you have two enemies, one of whom needs an 18 to hit you, and the other of whom needs a 2 to hit you, and they do equal damage, the average damage you take if both attack you once is the same whether you get a +2 bonus to the defense where you're hit on an 18 or the defense where you're hit on a 2. Just because you chose to take a +2 to your stronger defense doesn't mean you can ignore the attacks on your weak defense!Edit: I find it pretty funny that I almost never disagree with either you or eamon, and here I'm disagreeing with both of you for different reasons in the same post <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 4982384, member: 1139"] The premise of nothing but damage is fine. It's the implicit assumption "when you raise your high FRW defense you can ignore attacks on your low defense" that's flawed. If a defense is very low relative to the attacker's attack bonus, a plus to that defense won't give you the same benefit. For many characters/opponents, you won't get the full benefit of a FRW-boosting feat because the monster would have hit you on a 1 if not for the auto-miss rule, pre-feat (e.g., "it hits on a -1 or better"), so some of the benefit of a bonus (e.g., that from a feat) will be lost. I'll set that possibility aside. If you have two enemies, one of whom needs an 18 to hit you, and the other of whom needs a 2 to hit you, and they do equal damage, the average damage you take if both attack you once is the same whether you get a +2 bonus to the defense where you're hit on an 18 or the defense where you're hit on a 2. Just because you chose to take a +2 to your stronger defense doesn't mean you can ignore the attacks on your weak defense! Edit: I find it pretty funny that I almost never disagree with either you or eamon, and here I'm disagreeing with both of you for different reasons in the same post :) [/QUOTE]

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