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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 2970740" data-attributes="member: 18363">Regarding the Psionic classes, I did not particularly like the newest ones in Complete Psionic. Mixing divine magic concepts (ie: mantles / domains) into psionics just didn't sit right with me - although I admit that the Divine Mind was interesting. And the Lurk just seemed like it was missing something. Somehow it was a little too bland in some areas and seemingly lacking something in others. So I am not surprised that they failed to make the final ten, let alone the final four. Of the older ones, the Soulknife is seemingly universally believed to be not-all-there. There are various disagreements as to what is wrong with it, but while the concept is liked, many seem to believe that the execution was simply not well thought out. Suggested changes range from increasing BAB to Good to a complete reworking of the class specials per level. So, though I like the class, I am not particularly surprised that it failed to make the cut. The Wilder has been called many things, and it tends to either be loved or loathed or viewed with confused uncertainty. I myself never cared for it much, and while its overchannel concept was nice, I have read quite a few complaints about it - either its execution or its potential for balance problems. So, again, I am not surprised it didn't make the cut. This leaves the Psion - which nearly made it to the final round, falling off only in the next to last round, and the Psychic Warrior - which did make the final round and may yet survive to see final victory. The Psion is a great class, and in the end I think it was mostly the anti-psi's that brought it down. Some simply don't like psionics - or don't mind psionics but don't like the idea of psionics in a 'fantasy' setting. This despite the fact that psionics is more science fantasy than science fiction. The Psion was the figurehead for the entire system, so it is not surprising that it fell before the Psychic Warrior. The Psychic Warrior has its own potentials, of course. It has combat ability beyond merely the use of psionic powers, and its bonus feats can make use of psionic feats - many of which all but emulate psionic powers (especially in 3e, which is why they changed it in the XPH, I believe). In many ways it is the second most recognized 'figurehead' of the psionics system. So I would not be surprised if all anti-psi's team up against it this round - even if they dislike, say, the Duskblade or the Scout. If the pro-psi's could instead decide upon whom they least wish to remain - the Scout or the Duskblade, as it seems the Warlock is not unpopular enough to fall - then perhaps the Psychic Warrior might yet survive to allow a partial win for Psionics in this Survivor poll. I suggest all pro-psi's vote for Duskblade, but I admit that I am biased.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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