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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2956052" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>I disagree. The opening up of the spell list in no way overcompensates them for the loss of proficiencies, attack bonus, and hit dice--if anything, the fact that they have to find divine scrolls (which are *so* much rarer than arcane scrolls it isn't even funny) rather than getting all the spells on, say, the cleric list, makes them weaker unless you have a WalMart for scrolls that includes scrolls made by classes that have no reason to make them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So when the Archivist finds a scroll (written by a Cleric) of a certain spell that is level 4 for a Cleric, you don't think the player is just being ridiculous on the <em>player's</em> part if she says "Awesome! PrC X that exists somewhere in the campaign world but I've never seen it before gets this spell as a first level spell, so I'm adding it as a first level spell?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Archivist is not broken--Players who try to bend the rules to get spells at ridiculous levels for their Archivist are the problem. Similarly, the Kobold is not broken--players who in this case use the rules correctly can twist the Kobold to gain ultimate power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 2956052, member: 29014"] I disagree. The opening up of the spell list in no way overcompensates them for the loss of proficiencies, attack bonus, and hit dice--if anything, the fact that they have to find divine scrolls (which are *so* much rarer than arcane scrolls it isn't even funny) rather than getting all the spells on, say, the cleric list, makes them weaker unless you have a WalMart for scrolls that includes scrolls made by classes that have no reason to make them. So when the Archivist finds a scroll (written by a Cleric) of a certain spell that is level 4 for a Cleric, you don't think the player is just being ridiculous on the [I]player's[/I] part if she says "Awesome! PrC X that exists somewhere in the campaign world but I've never seen it before gets this spell as a first level spell, so I'm adding it as a first level spell? The Archivist is not broken--Players who try to bend the rules to get spells at ridiculous levels for their Archivist are the problem. Similarly, the Kobold is not broken--players who in this case use the rules correctly can twist the Kobold to gain ultimate power. [/QUOTE]
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