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Non-Core Class Survivor Spin-off: Pro-psionics or anti-psionics
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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2968552" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>I love it!</p><p></p><p>It has a reputation problem. Previous editions always had problems. (The 3.5 version is the best one yet, but still has stupid things (the same way the core rules have some stupid things), or things that DMs have a hard time adapting to.)</p><p></p><p>I ran into this problem in a 3.0 campaign.</p><p></p><p>Two players didn't like psionics (I was another player). One admitted that it was because 2e psionics was horribly broken, and he didn't like Schism. (My character never exceeded 2nd-level and so couldn't demonstrate how balanced - or not - the power was.) The other person was new to DnD, played a druid, thought Entangle was perfectly balanced and hated psionics due to a couple of incidents.</p><p></p><p>My character was using Biocurrent. That let you do 1d4 damage (Fort save for half) with a duration of Concentration. Twice it looked good.</p><p></p><p>The first time we were attacked by a pair of wolves in a forest. My character climbed a tree and blasted them. The power had a range of 25 feet, so the wolves could have moved away. They just stayed at the base of the tree until they died. Another psion player hit one with the psionic tanglefoot bag, which entangled one. The DM basically messed up their behavior there (the wolves should have run). The druid player hit the roof. Maybe she was planning on using Animal Empathy on them or something, but she decided the problem had to be busted psionics.</p><p></p><p>Right. Said druid entangled other opponents so we could just shoot them ... and it affected more than one or two opponents. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /></p><p></p><p>The second time, we fought in a house. Part of the fight took place on a stairwell. The fighter was standing in front of me with the bad buy on the other side of him, and Biocurrent is a targeted power (no chance of harming the fighter). I hit the enemy, who couldn't get to me. I deliberately chose that position because Biocurrent requires Concentration and didn't want to get hit at all while manifesting the power. Again, hitting the roof time from the druid player.</p><p></p><p>I think psionics is disliked because it's another system, it's <em>not</em> simple (us psionic lovers just think it's simple), munchkins take advantage of DMs who don't know the psionics rules all that well but let them in because of munchkin player pressure, and because it always seems to run into disappointing errors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 2968552, member: 1165"] I love it! It has a reputation problem. Previous editions always had problems. (The 3.5 version is the best one yet, but still has stupid things (the same way the core rules have some stupid things), or things that DMs have a hard time adapting to.) I ran into this problem in a 3.0 campaign. Two players didn't like psionics (I was another player). One admitted that it was because 2e psionics was horribly broken, and he didn't like Schism. (My character never exceeded 2nd-level and so couldn't demonstrate how balanced - or not - the power was.) The other person was new to DnD, played a druid, thought Entangle was perfectly balanced and hated psionics due to a couple of incidents. My character was using Biocurrent. That let you do 1d4 damage (Fort save for half) with a duration of Concentration. Twice it looked good. The first time we were attacked by a pair of wolves in a forest. My character climbed a tree and blasted them. The power had a range of 25 feet, so the wolves could have moved away. They just stayed at the base of the tree until they died. Another psion player hit one with the psionic tanglefoot bag, which entangled one. The DM basically messed up their behavior there (the wolves should have run). The druid player hit the roof. Maybe she was planning on using Animal Empathy on them or something, but she decided the problem had to be busted psionics. Right. Said druid entangled other opponents so we could just shoot them ... and it affected more than one or two opponents. :mad: The second time, we fought in a house. Part of the fight took place on a stairwell. The fighter was standing in front of me with the bad buy on the other side of him, and Biocurrent is a targeted power (no chance of harming the fighter). I hit the enemy, who couldn't get to me. I deliberately chose that position because Biocurrent requires Concentration and didn't want to get hit at all while manifesting the power. Again, hitting the roof time from the druid player. I think psionics is disliked because it's another system, it's [i]not[/i] simple (us psionic lovers just think it's simple), munchkins take advantage of DMs who don't know the psionics rules all that well but let them in because of munchkin player pressure, and because it always seems to run into disappointing errors. [/QUOTE]
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