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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2938061" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>One of these days. You could play an honorable knight if you want, but most knights didn't behave that way, so the knight's code shouldn't be part of a class. Also, the graveyards are filled with the corpses of honorable warriors. And, finally, an honorable knight should realize that adventurers are often not honorable, even though they're often good-aligned.</p><p></p><p>And then there's that stupid taunt ability! I would have voted for the knight, except the samurai was just begging to be smacked down.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Japan did go through different time periods where samurai were treated quite differently. During a rougly 250 year peace (punctuated by the occasional revolt) it's not surprising the samurai caste weren't really warriors after all; they were turned into leaders and bureaucrats and many wouldn't have fighter levels in DnD terms, they would have Aristrocrat levels instead. IIRC Kiso Yoshinaka's wife Toemon <em>did</em> kick butt in a fight, but most female samurai didn't fight. Of course, Kiso Yoshinaka and Toemon was from the "rough and uncultured" Minamoto clan more than 400 years before the Tokugawa got into power...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True but that doesn't mean there weren't daimyo killed by their own samurai. Takeda Katsuyori got an even worse fate; locked out of his own castle with an army chasing him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's the one I hear, and I don't read Japanese. Daimyo is supposed to mean "big name" but all the sources I've read use it as "Great Lord".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 2938061, member: 1165"] One of these days. You could play an honorable knight if you want, but most knights didn't behave that way, so the knight's code shouldn't be part of a class. Also, the graveyards are filled with the corpses of honorable warriors. And, finally, an honorable knight should realize that adventurers are often not honorable, even though they're often good-aligned. And then there's that stupid taunt ability! I would have voted for the knight, except the samurai was just begging to be smacked down. Japan did go through different time periods where samurai were treated quite differently. During a rougly 250 year peace (punctuated by the occasional revolt) it's not surprising the samurai caste weren't really warriors after all; they were turned into leaders and bureaucrats and many wouldn't have fighter levels in DnD terms, they would have Aristrocrat levels instead. IIRC Kiso Yoshinaka's wife Toemon [i]did[/i] kick butt in a fight, but most female samurai didn't fight. Of course, Kiso Yoshinaka and Toemon was from the "rough and uncultured" Minamoto clan more than 400 years before the Tokugawa got into power... True but that doesn't mean there weren't daimyo killed by their own samurai. Takeda Katsuyori got an even worse fate; locked out of his own castle with an army chasing him. It's the one I hear, and I don't read Japanese. Daimyo is supposed to mean "big name" but all the sources I've read use it as "Great Lord". [/QUOTE]
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