Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Non-D&D 4Ed
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Dungeoneer" data-source="post: 5468932" data-attributes="member: 91777"><p>There's a reason that Hollywood churns out endless sequels, every fantasy book is "the first in a seventeen part series!" and we're up to XIII in the Final Fantasy games: brand recognition sells.  For better or worse sequels generally outperform the originals.  Building a recognizable new property is <em>hard</em>.  Even when the first outing is a breakout success, you typically still don't do the numbers of an established franchise.  </p><p></p><p>Establishing a new franchise or IP is tricky in any media, but tabletop RPGs aren't exactly setting the world on fire in 2010.  Since 1974, there's really only one name in TRPGs that had made headlines, topped bestseller lists, and penetrated our cultural consciousness: <em>Dungeons & Dragons</em>.  </p><p></p><p>The launch of Fourth Edition was a <em>media event</em>.  It got covered in newspapers.  Like, real newspapers.  There was a lot of buzz.  People recognize the brand like no other in the industry.  </p><p></p><p>Even at their best, Wizards of the Coast is never going to get that with a new property.  And no, 'From the makers of D&D...' isn't going to cut it.  WotC has made other RPGs before now.  They haven't exactly set the world on fire, though.  Their CCGs have done well, but arguably those are different games entirely.</p><p></p><p>D&D was and remains the flagship of TRPGs.  That's unlikely to change any time soon.  The fact is that WotC's major efforts within our hobby going forward are always going to be billed as The Newest Update To Dungeons & Dragons.</p><p></p><p>4e is a good game, even if it's not <em>your</em> game.  They could have slapped the D&D name on a vastly inferior game, raked in piles of cash, and called it a day.  They didn't.  I think they deserve some credit for that.</p><p></p><p>But the name D&D is big, and 4e by any other name would not have smelled as sweet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeoneer, post: 5468932, member: 91777"] There's a reason that Hollywood churns out endless sequels, every fantasy book is "the first in a seventeen part series!" and we're up to XIII in the Final Fantasy games: brand recognition sells. For better or worse sequels generally outperform the originals. Building a recognizable new property is [I]hard[/I]. Even when the first outing is a breakout success, you typically still don't do the numbers of an established franchise. Establishing a new franchise or IP is tricky in any media, but tabletop RPGs aren't exactly setting the world on fire in 2010. Since 1974, there's really only one name in TRPGs that had made headlines, topped bestseller lists, and penetrated our cultural consciousness: [I]Dungeons & Dragons[/I]. The launch of Fourth Edition was a [I]media event[/I]. It got covered in newspapers. Like, real newspapers. There was a lot of buzz. People recognize the brand like no other in the industry. Even at their best, Wizards of the Coast is never going to get that with a new property. And no, 'From the makers of D&D...' isn't going to cut it. WotC has made other RPGs before now. They haven't exactly set the world on fire, though. Their CCGs have done well, but arguably those are different games entirely. D&D was and remains the flagship of TRPGs. That's unlikely to change any time soon. The fact is that WotC's major efforts within our hobby going forward are always going to be billed as The Newest Update To Dungeons & Dragons. 4e is a good game, even if it's not [I]your[/I] game. They could have slapped the D&D name on a vastly inferior game, raked in piles of cash, and called it a day. They didn't. I think they deserve some credit for that. But the name D&D is big, and 4e by any other name would not have smelled as sweet. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Non-D&D 4Ed
Top