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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Larrin" data-source="post: 5331476" data-attributes="member: 55816">No thats definitely the case.Shroud form is NOT something you should be trying to maintain long term in an encounter, its a temporary shield that lasts until you hit something.My take on the assassin I've been playing from level 11-15.  I love it.  It is the class for me.  I dance about combat, making tactical snipes until I build up enough shrouds and then I let loose with a blast of damage. I don't suffer from being out damaged by the defenders or leader in my party, but I could if I hadn't taken Nightshade and a few other feats (mildly disappointing).  When I take a big hit, I can go into shroud form and take only half damage (feat), I only stay in shade form until my turn, because its always better to attack.  If I need extra protection I have many ways of turning flat out invisible, several of long range teleports, and easily stealth after either, plus after cashing in four shrouds I have 20 temp hp, often this sees me through the battle.  My character has two goals reflected in powers and feats,1) place Shrouds make sure I hit when using them  2)become difficult to hit.   This works for me, and I have not felt useless at all, often really shining.  Example: When fighting  after doing 160+ damage in my first round of attacks (4 shrouds from last round->marked for death+4d6+12->place 3 shrouds (killers insight+marked for death)->actionpoint:some attack +3d6+9->teleport 10 (action point power) ) I went invisible and stealthed for three rounds, avoiding retaliation, placing more shrouds, doing more large amounts of damage then rehiding, and getting my self into optimal positioning.  When I did appear, the dragon (and DM) really wanted to hit me, so it was willing to chance putting itself in suboptimal positioning to attack me.  When it hit, I used shade form interrupt to halve the damage, and it quickly found itself pinned to the ground between a fighter and a warden having been lured in by the tasty assassin bait.  One dead dragon later, I'd done hundreds of damage to a dragon I had engaged pretty much the entire encounter, and after temps and insubstantial, I'd only taken 3 damage.   This is how my assassin plays in general, and its how I love playing.</blockquote>

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