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<blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 4047326" data-attributes="member: 33132">If I'd play the wizard, I'd prefer to have more of my party colleagues around me! Or a defensive spell! Or not having a monster there. Or a wall in front of my character. And the second picture is exactly like the things I have listed - a completely different situation. Like having a wall in front of you. Or more friends.The two pictures, under 4E space, are simply non-comparable, because they show entirely different situations, that have nothing to do with each other, unless you cling to the idea of rotational symmetry.But I give you that: It's a weird idea to give that up. And I prefer the 2-1-1-1-1 rule from this thread. And I wish I could see a Escheresque projection of 4E space into our euclidean space - basically a square grid warped into a circle.Hmm... I wonder it that's not already the case... That's why I want to see that projection - it's too late to think about it without a pretty picture! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Cheers, LT.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WhatGravitas, post: 4047326, member: 33132"] If I'd play the wizard, I'd prefer to have more of my party colleagues around me! Or a defensive spell! Or not having a monster there. Or a wall in front of my character. And the second picture is exactly like the things I have listed - a completely different situation. Like having a wall in front of you. Or more friends. The two pictures, under 4E space, are simply non-comparable, because they show entirely different situations, that have nothing to do with each other, unless you cling to the idea of rotational symmetry. But I give you that: It's a weird idea to give that up. And I prefer the 2-1-1-1-1 rule from this thread. And I wish I could see a Escheresque projection of 4E space into our euclidean space - basically a square grid warped into a circle. Hmm... I wonder it that's not already the case... That's why I want to see that projection - it's too late to think about it without a pretty picture! :p Cheers, LT. [/QUOTE]

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