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<blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 4535142" data-attributes="member: 75065">sounds like over complicating things for the hell of it... Luck/doge/near miss HP (based on what? Dex? Int? Wis? All of the above?) and separate CON oww... that sword actually hit me HP.... Where would Psychic damage go? Who decides if it was a near miss or a solid hit. &nbsp;Who is to say a sleeping target cant turn with a groan just as a blow is struck ?&nbsp;Also HP are not always CON based. There are several regions in FR for example which allow you to use other primary stats to determine initial HP. Something&nbsp; very easy to rule in any campaign.&nbsp;Also if you think about it each class has a certain amount of HP assigned which is added to CON... perhaps these are your 'luck/near miss HP', which then are increased each level (and are no longer affected by CON)... the player growing in skill, become better at avoiding lethal blows and thus can afford more close shaves that might have knocked them out the level before.&nbsp;Also if the problem you have with the system is how to reward your players for capturing rather than killing their enemies, from my point of view the sipliciy of the game mechanic does ,as you say, limit the battle aspect of the adventure because its so easy; what it also does is open up wonderful opportunities for you to use your creativity and imagination to make what happens after the enemy in question slumps unconscious to the ground truly memorable and really make them earn that extra reward on offer.&nbsp;I'm sure after being pursued by a horde of angry followers over swing bridges, narrow ledges and quicksand ridden swamplands with an uncooperative prisoner trying to slow them down, they will toss up whether next time they simply slice his head off and put it in a sack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jbear, post: 4535142, member: 75065"] sounds like over complicating things for the hell of it... Luck/doge/near miss HP (based on what? Dex? Int? Wis? All of the above?) and separate CON oww... that sword actually hit me HP.... Where would Psychic damage go? Who decides if it was a near miss or a solid hit. Who is to say a sleeping target cant turn with a groan just as a blow is struck ? Also HP are not always CON based. There are several regions in FR for example which allow you to use other primary stats to determine initial HP. Something very easy to rule in any campaign. Also if you think about it each class has a certain amount of HP assigned which is added to CON... perhaps these are your 'luck/near miss HP', which then are increased each level (and are no longer affected by CON)... the player growing in skill, become better at avoiding lethal blows and thus can afford more close shaves that might have knocked them out the level before. Also if the problem you have with the system is how to reward your players for capturing rather than killing their enemies, from my point of view the sipliciy of the game mechanic does ,as you say, limit the battle aspect of the adventure because its so easy; what it also does is open up wonderful opportunities for you to use your creativity and imagination to make what happens after the enemy in question slumps unconscious to the ground truly memorable and really make them earn that extra reward on offer. I'm sure after being pursued by a horde of angry followers over swing bridges, narrow ledges and quicksand ridden swamplands with an uncooperative prisoner trying to slow them down, they will toss up whether next time they simply slice his head off and put it in a sack. [/QUOTE]

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