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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 4536011" data-attributes="member: 12377">IIRC, non-lethal damage in 3e often involved taking a -4 penalty to your attack roll.If 4e is a storytelling tool meant to simulate cinematic-action fantasy, then it seems to me that knocking out foes, capturing them, and interrogating them happen only rarely in cinematic-action fantasy (only when it moves the story forward in some interesting way).&nbsp; For many groups, that's the way the players behave, but for some, it's not:&nbsp; my players enjoy puzzle-solving and often try to seek advantage even when doing so is boring.&nbsp; I don't want them to constantly feel torn between keeping up the fun action pace vs stopping to interrogate prisoners after every fight.&nbsp; So I make that decision easier by adapting the rules to better simulate cinematic-action fantasy:&nbsp; knockouts are harder than kills.I'm not saying the RAW is wrong in general, just for some groups.&nbsp;-- 77IM</blockquote>

[QUOTE="77IM, post: 4536011, member: 12377"] IIRC, non-lethal damage in 3e often involved taking a -4 penalty to your attack roll. If 4e is a storytelling tool meant to simulate cinematic-action fantasy, then it seems to me that knocking out foes, capturing them, and interrogating them happen only rarely in cinematic-action fantasy (only when it moves the story forward in some interesting way). For many groups, that's the way the players behave, but for some, it's not: my players enjoy puzzle-solving and often try to seek advantage even when doing so is boring. I don't want them to constantly feel torn between keeping up the fun action pace vs stopping to interrogate prisoners after every fight. So I make that decision easier by adapting the rules to better simulate cinematic-action fantasy: knockouts are harder than kills. I'm not saying the RAW is wrong in general, just for some groups. -- 77IM [/QUOTE]

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