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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6679846" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Flint is a stone that's high in Magnesium.&nbsp; The sparks are burning magnesium, not molten iron.&nbsp; Sparks from steel on a grinding stone are burning iron (yes iron burns.&nbsp; Try lighting fine steel wool some time.&nbsp; You get rust, but it never gets hot enough to melt the iron.)Having been in the Boy Scouts long ago, I can tell you that you can light wood, paper or cloth with flint and steel.&nbsp; Prepared tinder such as wood shavings and/or char-cloth an be set blaze in seconds.&nbsp; I saw a demonstration at an historic fort in Sacramento California.&nbsp; The lady, well practiced as most people would be &quot;back in the day&quot; could light a fire as easily as you or I would with matches.&nbsp; She had flames from char-cloth first time, every time.You can burn yourself, slightly, with the sparks from flint and steel.&nbsp; You get micro-burns on the skin.&nbsp; Look at a machinist's hands and forearms some time.So I'd consider the damage to be &quot;lethal&quot; on the &quot;less than a hit point&quot; scale.In game terms, those sparks have to be &quot;lethal&quot;.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because they can start fires and damage things, and inanimate objects are unaffected by non-lethal damage.&nbsp; What are you going to do, knock the table out? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As for Non-Lethal Substitution:&nbsp; For spells like Fireball, think Flash-Bang.&nbsp; For Electrical effects like Lightning Bolt, think TASER.&nbsp; Cold damage?&nbsp; Thermal shock.&nbsp; (You can knock yourself out by placing ice on your wrists or the back of your neck. )&nbsp; Sonic is easy to visualize as non-lethal.&nbsp; The hard part of that one is getting sound to be lethal in the first place.&nbsp; Acid?&nbsp; That one's hard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6679846, member: 6669384"] Flint is a stone that's high in Magnesium. The sparks are burning magnesium, not molten iron. Sparks from steel on a grinding stone are burning iron (yes iron burns. Try lighting fine steel wool some time. You get rust, but it never gets hot enough to melt the iron.) Having been in the Boy Scouts long ago, I can tell you that you can light wood, paper or cloth with flint and steel. Prepared tinder such as wood shavings and/or char-cloth an be set blaze in seconds. I saw a demonstration at an historic fort in Sacramento California. The lady, well practiced as most people would be "back in the day" could light a fire as easily as you or I would with matches. She had flames from char-cloth first time, every time. You can burn yourself, slightly, with the sparks from flint and steel. You get micro-burns on the skin. Look at a machinist's hands and forearms some time. So I'd consider the damage to be "lethal" on the "less than a hit point" scale. In game terms, those sparks have to be "lethal". Why? Because they can start fires and damage things, and inanimate objects are unaffected by non-lethal damage. What are you going to do, knock the table out? :) As for Non-Lethal Substitution: For spells like Fireball, think Flash-Bang. For Electrical effects like Lightning Bolt, think TASER. Cold damage? Thermal shock. (You can knock yourself out by placing ice on your wrists or the back of your neck. ) Sonic is easy to visualize as non-lethal. The hard part of that one is getting sound to be lethal in the first place. Acid? That one's hard. [/QUOTE]

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