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<blockquote data-quote="Enforcer" data-source="post: 3756543" data-attributes="member: 396">I'd go Swordsage, using the unarmed variant listed in the Adaptation paragraph for that class. Basically, you get Monk unarmed damage (and Improved Unarmed Strike) in exchange for the ability to wear armor.You'll still have the Wis bonus to AC, but you'll probably want to get some maneuvers that bump AC or allow you to negate attacks. Unfortunately, Wall of Blades from Iron Heart isn't a Swordsage discipline.Regarding Tome of Battle requiring weapons, can you point to a specific rule that says you can't do maneuvers unarmed? A few of the styles even have &quot;unarmed&quot; as a preferred weapon (Setting Sun, Shadow Hand, Tiger Claw to just name ones off the top of my head).If you choose something besides Swordsage, at least you can get Improved Unarmed Strike and the Superior Unarmed Strike feat (from Tome of Battle) to up your damage output. Which I believe you noted above.Also consider the various Ascetic _______ feats from Complete Adventurer (and Ascetic Stalker from Complete Scoundrel). They're designed to let you dip in Monk for unarmed combat reasons, but yet still progress in another class as your main focus.Finally, realize that you can't have it all. There's no unarmed fighter that can have high damage, high BAB, high AC, etc. You'll have to make some tradeoffs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Enforcer, post: 3756543, member: 396"] I'd go Swordsage, using the unarmed variant listed in the Adaptation paragraph for that class. Basically, you get Monk unarmed damage (and Improved Unarmed Strike) in exchange for the ability to wear armor. You'll still have the Wis bonus to AC, but you'll probably want to get some maneuvers that bump AC or allow you to negate attacks. Unfortunately, Wall of Blades from Iron Heart isn't a Swordsage discipline. Regarding Tome of Battle requiring weapons, can you point to a specific rule that says you can't do maneuvers unarmed? A few of the styles even have "unarmed" as a preferred weapon (Setting Sun, Shadow Hand, Tiger Claw to just name ones off the top of my head). If you choose something besides Swordsage, at least you can get Improved Unarmed Strike and the Superior Unarmed Strike feat (from Tome of Battle) to up your damage output. Which I believe you noted above. Also consider the various Ascetic _______ feats from Complete Adventurer (and Ascetic Stalker from Complete Scoundrel). They're designed to let you dip in Monk for unarmed combat reasons, but yet still progress in another class as your main focus. Finally, realize that you can't have it all. There's no unarmed fighter that can have high damage, high BAB, high AC, etc. You'll have to make some tradeoffs. [/QUOTE]

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