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<blockquote data-quote="Glyfair" data-source="post: 3365481" data-attributes="member: 53"><p>They will, but you are probably asking for more than that. Clearly the market supports non-random miniature packs because companies are successful with them (Reaper, Games Workshop). However, most here are looking for more than that. They want non-random <strong>prepainted, plastic</strong> miniatures <strong>from WotC</strong> of <strong>D&D monsters</strong>. The combination is the issue.</p><p></p><p>What's the problem with prepainted? Clearly they add to the price significantly. Good non-random prepainted miniatures have been attempted, but haven't last any length of time at an affordable level with a decent selection. Go on eBay and get a decent painted miniature and it costs you at least $15 and up to $80 for very high quality 28mm figures. Mass production allows this to work.</p><p></p><p>What's the problem with plastic? Plastic miniatures have huge set up costs compared to metal miniatures. Metal just requires an inexpensive rubber mold typically. Plastic requires very expensive molds (an industry person quoted a price of about $100,000 per mold, but his experience was in the 80s - and that's per piece that goes into a miniature and often they have multiple parts). That expense is spread out among a lot of miniatures with DDM.</p><p></p><p>What's the problem with D&D Monsters? Many of the D&D monsters are of limited use. Sure some DMs might get a lot of use of the kolyarut, but most won't use it ever and those that do will use it for a short period and never touch it again. They can't justify putting that in a pack, so that sort of miniature won't get made.</p><p></p><p>What's the problem with WotC doing them? They don't want to cannibalize their DDM which works so well because of the synergies in the system. If they create packs of common miniatures they might lose that part of the market that buys DDM for the comparatively cheap commons. Don't kid yourself, the very cheap common miniature prices on the secondary market are so low because the rare prices are so high. A non-random set would be more expensive than that per figure, which will hurt the sales of the non-random packs (why should I buy 10 non-random packaged orcs for $20 when I can get 20 DDM orcs from the secondary market for about $15 with Shipping and Handling?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glyfair, post: 3365481, member: 53"] They will, but you are probably asking for more than that. Clearly the market supports non-random miniature packs because companies are successful with them (Reaper, Games Workshop). However, most here are looking for more than that. They want non-random [B]prepainted, plastic[/B] miniatures [B]from WotC[/B] of [B]D&D monsters[/B]. The combination is the issue. What's the problem with prepainted? Clearly they add to the price significantly. Good non-random prepainted miniatures have been attempted, but haven't last any length of time at an affordable level with a decent selection. Go on eBay and get a decent painted miniature and it costs you at least $15 and up to $80 for very high quality 28mm figures. Mass production allows this to work. What's the problem with plastic? Plastic miniatures have huge set up costs compared to metal miniatures. Metal just requires an inexpensive rubber mold typically. Plastic requires very expensive molds (an industry person quoted a price of about $100,000 per mold, but his experience was in the 80s - and that's per piece that goes into a miniature and often they have multiple parts). That expense is spread out among a lot of miniatures with DDM. What's the problem with D&D Monsters? Many of the D&D monsters are of limited use. Sure some DMs might get a lot of use of the kolyarut, but most won't use it ever and those that do will use it for a short period and never touch it again. They can't justify putting that in a pack, so that sort of miniature won't get made. What's the problem with WotC doing them? They don't want to cannibalize their DDM which works so well because of the synergies in the system. If they create packs of common miniatures they might lose that part of the market that buys DDM for the comparatively cheap commons. Don't kid yourself, the very cheap common miniature prices on the secondary market are so low because the rare prices are so high. A non-random set would be more expensive than that per figure, which will hurt the sales of the non-random packs (why should I buy 10 non-random packaged orcs for $20 when I can get 20 DDM orcs from the secondary market for about $15 with Shipping and Handling?) [/QUOTE]
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