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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zaukrie" data-source="post: 3367478" data-attributes="member: 2057">You mean minis I need to assemble, then paint to cover up the assembly? No thanks. The primary appeal to the current minis is I don't need to do any of that (except on really cold days when I might feel like teaching myself how to paint).Metal minis are considerably more fragile, and since they don't come in bundles and bundles, I'll care if I break one or two (as opposed to the all too common orc or dwarf in DDM). To Mark CMG: can't find the link to the company that used to make orcs and elves in pre-painted, non-random sets - the name is probably in one of our many threads on this topic. I think Dwarven Forge either does, or did, make pre-painted minis - but they aren't/weren't cheap.To the person that would be ok with 150 minis in 5 years - ever see that gum commercial where they make gum that lasts forever? They put themselves out of business. How many minis do you sell as a company if you only put out 30 a year? Once a DM has 3-5 packs of orcs at that rate, how many more do people buy? The reason WotC can continue to make money on this stuff is that they put out the weird/rare/unique stuff, that enough people want, that people buy the packs. If they only concentrated on orcs/drow/elves/dwarves/humans - they'd put themselves out of work pretty fast.</blockquote>