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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5059545" data-attributes="member: 40177">To give an example of what I envision:Adam the fighter is a first level human on his first adventure.  He has an 18 strength, a 15 Con, and an eleven in all other abilities (for the sake of the example!).  At first level, Adam uses his longsword, and when using his at-will, he has an attack bonus of +8 (+4 from his strength, +3 from the longsword, and +1 from his fighter one-handed weapon talent).  That same at-will deals 1d8+5 damage (we'll say Adam has Weapon Focus as a feat).  Adam has 30 hit points, and with his scale mail and shield, an AC of 19 (for the purposes of this example, we'll ignore his other defences).  Adam is adventuring with Brody the Fighter for some reason.  Brody is a 10th level human fighter, who has taken all the same feats as Adam, and then more!  (The Player of Brody is kind of a jerk).  In fact, Brody had the same ability scores as Adam at first level, though now at 10th level, Brody has a Strength of 20 and a Constitution of 17.  Brody has upgraded by now to a Bastard sword, and he's got an attack bonus of +9 (+5 from his strength, +3 from the sword, and +1 from his class talent), and deals 1d10+8  damage with his at-will (he picked up a +2 longsword... with the +2 only counting towards his damage output)... of course, he's also got a lot more encounter powers, dailies, and utilities!  Most importanly, Brody has 86 hit points - he'll last longer in a fight, that's for sure!  His AC is still going to be 19, though - no improvement there.  Now, if Brody and Adam adventure together, against (let's say) 6th level Lizardfolk Blackscale Bruisers.  Each bruiser deals 1d10+6 damage on a hit, and has 86 HP (as written).  Both Adam and Brody have about the same chance to hit, with Brody hitting slightly more often.  However, Adam can only take maybe three hits before dying, whereas Brody will last much longer (eight or nine hits).  Adam will be forced to rely upon his at-wills, while Brody can use his encounters to take of the monster (also, he generally knows  the odds of his daily hitting).</blockquote>

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