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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5281815" data-attributes="member: 18182">Wha?&nbsp; Auld Grump, you and Verdande have perplexed me in this thread.&nbsp; WotC's assumption that creatures are square?&nbsp; That makes no sense.&nbsp; This may not be your intent, but these comments just sound like taking potshots at everybody's favorite company to hate for no real reason.The vast majority of ALL miniatures made for gaming today come on either perfectly square or perfectly circular bases, not just those by WotC.&nbsp; The size of the square/circle bases vary, but each character and creature is designed to fit onto the base, perhaps hanging over some part of it.&nbsp; And each base, fits within a square . . .Horses and other &quot;cavalry&quot; are a great exception, creatures that are &quot;long&quot;.&nbsp; You can put them on square or round bases, but they also fit just fine on &quot;cavalry&quot; bases that are usually 1x2 &quot;squares&quot;.&nbsp; In fact, many characters and creatures, including those from WotC, can easily be removed from their &quot;forced&quot; square/round bases and mounted on a cavalry base.&nbsp; There are some easy examples in the Heroscape D&amp;D line, which doesn't use square/round bases for &quot;large&quot; creatures, the line uses cavalry bases.&nbsp; And the figures are reprints from the standard D&amp;D minis line.Also, most of the miniatures that come on &quot;broccoli&quot; bases don't really break the &quot;square&quot; mold . . . . as they usually still fit just fine within the standard 1&quot; square space on a battlemat.&nbsp; They're just minis mounted on circles with the extra bits of the circle trimmed away, in a fashion.So . . . for the OP, it's not the shape of the base nor the scale of the miniatures that is a problem . . . it's the fact that most minis from any company fit rather neatly into a &quot;square&quot; on a battlemat?&nbsp; That's a complaint I've never heard before, and will be surprised if I ever hear again!For minis that go &quot;beyond the square&quot; . . . you're really looking at cavalry and asymmetrical monsters, and that's about it, IME.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 5281815, member: 18182"] Wha? Auld Grump, you and Verdande have perplexed me in this thread. WotC's assumption that creatures are square? That makes no sense. This may not be your intent, but these comments just sound like taking potshots at everybody's favorite company to hate for no real reason. The vast majority of ALL miniatures made for gaming today come on either perfectly square or perfectly circular bases, not just those by WotC. The size of the square/circle bases vary, but each character and creature is designed to fit onto the base, perhaps hanging over some part of it. And each base, fits within a square . . . Horses and other "cavalry" are a great exception, creatures that are "long". You can put them on square or round bases, but they also fit just fine on "cavalry" bases that are usually 1x2 "squares". In fact, many characters and creatures, including those from WotC, can easily be removed from their "forced" square/round bases and mounted on a cavalry base. There are some easy examples in the Heroscape D&D line, which doesn't use square/round bases for "large" creatures, the line uses cavalry bases. And the figures are reprints from the standard D&D minis line. Also, most of the miniatures that come on "broccoli" bases don't really break the "square" mold . . . . as they usually still fit just fine within the standard 1" square space on a battlemat. They're just minis mounted on circles with the extra bits of the circle trimmed away, in a fashion. So . . . for the OP, it's not the shape of the base nor the scale of the miniatures that is a problem . . . it's the fact that most minis from any company fit rather neatly into a "square" on a battlemat? That's a complaint I've never heard before, and will be surprised if I ever hear again! For minis that go "beyond the square" . . . you're really looking at cavalry and asymmetrical monsters, and that's about it, IME. [/QUOTE]

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