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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ulrick" data-source="post: 4912385" data-attributes="member: 775">nothing can bring me back at this pointAfter 4e came out, I bought the core books, Adventurer's Vault, and finally Open Grave. I was excited, I thought 4e seemed simpler to run (like 2e). I ran a couple one-shot games and enjoyed myself. But then I ran a campaign and did not enjoy it for many of the reasons that have been cited here on EnWorld and elsewhere. WotC does not have products I am willing to buy.It is, however, kind of a bummer going to my FLGS and skipping over the D&D section because there's nothing of interest there.</blockquote>