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Message: <blockquote data-quote="malkav666" data-source="post: 4913257" data-attributes="member: 70565">I won't be back for 4th edition D&D. I don't care for the game and thusly have no intent of spending any of the money I earn on it. I may play it with one of my gaming groups if they foot the bill for materials, and ran the game. But I don't think I will have to worry about that. Pathfinder hit pretty hard in my local scene and both of the groups that I personally know members that play at my FLGS that were playing 4e switched to PFRPG the day it released. I think there may still be a few hold out groups left over, but none of the gamers that I hang with are playing 4e at all now (and that is about 50 folks).I am not mad at WOTC. I was a little miffed about the old edition PDFs getting axed (mainly because I lost some dolars due in part to my own laziness, not DLing things I had paid for). It pretty much has to do with the fact that I think 4e is not a good system. I still buy saga books from them,  I pick up a pack of tiles every now and again, and I buy middle-market mini singles.As far as getting me on board for D&D? That would involve them making a game that I recognize as D&D. 4e does not fit into the my definition of how D&D should feel. So I voted a new edition would get me to look at D&D again. If it is good I will buy it. If it is more of what 4e offers, I will just pass on it. love,malkav</blockquote>