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<blockquote data-quote="alleynbard" data-source="post: 4913997" data-attributes="member: 16220"><p>This is about how I feel. </p><p></p><p>The only difference is I have run a 4e game for the last 6 months. Our last 4e session will be tomorrow and we will be moving to Pathfinder. I started off liking the game, mostly because prep time was such a breeze. Then as time passed I started to truly doubt the system. Then my players started to express a dislike of the system. It was at that point I realized we really weren't having much fun. The game quickly lost its shine. I guess I am a simulationist at heart. I like Gygaxian Naturalism.</p><p></p><p>Heck, I even wrote a letter of support to the 4e designers at the height of my excitement. I thought I was sold. But I wasn't. I still stand by that letter. My feelings at the time were legitimate. I was still rather new to 4e and I was excited about the new shiny game. It just so happens I came to change my mind. But it doesn't mean I shifted from supportive to angry. I just feel kind of ambivalent now. I am happy to be going back to 3.5 via Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>There are some interesting things about 4e, but it took me awhile to fully realize it wasn't for me. Even when I was most excited about 4e, I had nagging doubts. Not too long ago I swore I would not go back to 3.5. Then I realized my issues with 3.5 had more to do with what WotC did to the game towards the end of its lifespan rather than the system itself. Pathfinder helped wake me up and solidified what I was looking for in a D&D game. </p><p></p><p>So, I guess I am a "revert". I enjoy 3.5 because I feel it is a fantastic expression of what makes D&D such a fun game. It is apart of a heritage that I grew up with and 4e doesn't illicit the same wonder. </p><p></p><p>At this point, Wizards would not likely win me back as a customer. Even if they started producing more 3e material (which is not going to happen) I wouldn't go back. They really destroyed that game with their endless splats and pointless revisions. I might pick up the occasional single mini, mostly creatures that are difficult to find through other mini companies. I generally prefer painted minis to plastic (though I do have a ton of plastic minis) so even that is an uphill battle. </p><p></p><p>I only regret we didn't see a revival of settings like Dark Sun, Planescape, and Birthright during the 3e era. I really would have been happy to see that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alleynbard, post: 4913997, member: 16220"] This is about how I feel. The only difference is I have run a 4e game for the last 6 months. Our last 4e session will be tomorrow and we will be moving to Pathfinder. I started off liking the game, mostly because prep time was such a breeze. Then as time passed I started to truly doubt the system. Then my players started to express a dislike of the system. It was at that point I realized we really weren't having much fun. The game quickly lost its shine. I guess I am a simulationist at heart. I like Gygaxian Naturalism. Heck, I even wrote a letter of support to the 4e designers at the height of my excitement. I thought I was sold. But I wasn't. I still stand by that letter. My feelings at the time were legitimate. I was still rather new to 4e and I was excited about the new shiny game. It just so happens I came to change my mind. But it doesn't mean I shifted from supportive to angry. I just feel kind of ambivalent now. I am happy to be going back to 3.5 via Pathfinder. There are some interesting things about 4e, but it took me awhile to fully realize it wasn't for me. Even when I was most excited about 4e, I had nagging doubts. Not too long ago I swore I would not go back to 3.5. Then I realized my issues with 3.5 had more to do with what WotC did to the game towards the end of its lifespan rather than the system itself. Pathfinder helped wake me up and solidified what I was looking for in a D&D game. So, I guess I am a "revert". I enjoy 3.5 because I feel it is a fantastic expression of what makes D&D such a fun game. It is apart of a heritage that I grew up with and 4e doesn't illicit the same wonder. At this point, Wizards would not likely win me back as a customer. Even if they started producing more 3e material (which is not going to happen) I wouldn't go back. They really destroyed that game with their endless splats and pointless revisions. I might pick up the occasional single mini, mostly creatures that are difficult to find through other mini companies. I generally prefer painted minis to plastic (though I do have a ton of plastic minis) so even that is an uphill battle. I only regret we didn't see a revival of settings like Dark Sun, Planescape, and Birthright during the 3e era. I really would have been happy to see that. [/QUOTE]
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