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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6364543" data-attributes="member: 996">I played an armored halfling tank back in the day.  He accumulated a lot of magic items for his level - because his level topped out at 5 (and that under a liberal interpretation). Those items included Gauntlets of Ogre Power.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  But, before that, the STR issue is only an issue if you roll a far enough above the Halfling's limit that it actually gets capped even after the penalty.  Otherwise, if, say, you're losing a point off your (no bonus) 15 STR, who cares?And, yes, the Fighter/Thief covers the other archetype - that it was a fighter/thief notwithstanding.  Exactly how you make the archetype work isn't too relevant.  And it wasn't unknown back in the day - it's not like Halflings had any other multi-classing options, and it helped to be a little less fragile and hit/save bettter than a single-class thief at 1st.  Still, I'll grant he's mostly thief and an underpowered example of the archetype.It's kinda funny, really.  There were only 3 halfling class choices (archetypes) available in 1e - thief, fighter/thief, and fighter.  You managed to site two of them as unconventional archetypes only just now becoming available in 5e.  What're the odds? As there were in 3e, and 4e, with a feat cost (feats being a lot 'smaller' in those editions).  In AD&D, there were some pretty butch STR-boosting items. /And/ weapon specialization.  Besides, you said you didn't care about optimizing.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />And, I did throw out another example for you.Here's another one:Monk that dresses in robes, uses a staff, is skilled in illuminating manuscripts, and has a pet.   Look at him in the adventuring party marching order and you see robe, staff, spellbooks, and a familiar.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  Monk with the Sage background in 5e.   Also just a monk with the right skills in 3e - or any other edition, really, it's mostly cosmetic.</blockquote>

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