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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kavon" data-source="post: 5957804" data-attributes="member: 9822">It would still be D&D, because you can still have the Wizard be Vancian if that is what you want.What would be the difference between the Wizard and the Mage, besides one being Vancian-only, and the other having freedom of choice?If they are otherwise equal, why make them two different classes? Just because there are people that demand that Wizards be Vancian only?I don't have a problem with people wanting their Wizard to have Vancian magic. I do have a problem with people demanding that it work only one way, because that's how they want it to work.I want people to have the option to make every spellcaster Vancian, if that's what they want.</blockquote>