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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2431643" data-attributes="member: 707">Says you.&nbsp; My reason is extremely good, as far as I'm concerned.&nbsp; If Nondetection were meant to work against all divinations, that's what the spell would say.&nbsp; No need for a list or examples.&nbsp; &quot;Divinations&quot; would cover it.&nbsp; Instead, the spell description says it foils spells &quot;such as&quot; and gives a list.&nbsp; That means there are spells, that are not &quot;such as&quot; the ones listed, that Nondetection doesn't foil.&nbsp; Here, the DM needs to decide if spells not specifically listed are indeed similar to the listed spells, or different enough either in flavor or mechanics that they are not.&nbsp; I rule that True Seeing is not.I've already explained my reasoning above, and nothing here even attempts to prove how that reasoning is faulty.*shrug*&nbsp; I can see how you rule the way you do.&nbsp; It all comes down to two points of adjudication.&nbsp; 1. Does Nondetection apply to all divinations?&nbsp; And 2. If the answer to 1 is 'no' then is True Seeing a divination spell to which Nondetection applies?I've pretty much given my reasons for ruling as I do.&nbsp; I don't really have anything more to add.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2431643, member: 707"] Says you. My reason is extremely good, as far as I'm concerned. If [i]Nondetection[/i] were meant to work against all divinations, that's what the spell would say. No need for a list or examples. "Divinations" would cover it. Instead, the spell description says it foils spells "such as" and gives a list. That means there are spells, that are not "such as" the ones listed, that [i]Nondetection[/i] doesn't foil. Here, the DM needs to decide if spells not specifically listed are indeed similar to the listed spells, or different enough either in flavor or mechanics that they are not. I rule that [i]True Seeing[/i] is not.I've already explained my reasoning above, and nothing here even attempts to prove how that reasoning is faulty. *shrug* I can see how you rule the way you do. It all comes down to two points of adjudication. 1. Does [i]Nondetection[/i] apply to all divinations? And 2. If the answer to 1 is 'no' then is [i]True Seeing[/i] a divination spell to which [i]Nondetection[/i] applies? I've pretty much given my reasons for ruling as I do. I don't really have anything more to add. [/QUOTE]

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