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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 9495038" data-attributes="member: 205">Str saves:&nbsp; General principle was anything that impacted core physiology (like poison and disease) stayed Con; affects that were generalized energy trauma became Str.&nbsp; As an example, Ray of Sickness was Con, but Thunderwave became Str.&nbsp; A character who had higher Str than Con could also use Str for Concentration checks.&nbsp; I also had a house rule that any character using a shield could use Str in place of Dex for AC calculations.Int saves:&nbsp; I moved a few Dex and Wis save spells into Int, generally anything where it felt like the possible impact could be calculated rather than reacted to.&nbsp; This impacted more monster abilities than spells, though.&nbsp; (Detect Thoughts and Guardian of Faith are examples I can think off from the top of my head.)&nbsp; I also had a feat that gave +1 to Int and allowed the use of Int for Dex saves.Cha saves:&nbsp; Generally anything that impacted the soul or overall &quot;identity&quot; of the target I moved to Cha.&nbsp; Compelled Duel, Suggestion, and Hold Person were three examples.&nbsp; Like Int, I had a feat that gave +1 to Cha and allowed the use of Cha for Wis saves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 9495038, member: 205"] Str saves: General principle was anything that impacted core physiology (like poison and disease) stayed Con; affects that were generalized energy trauma became Str. As an example, Ray of Sickness was Con, but Thunderwave became Str. A character who had higher Str than Con could also use Str for Concentration checks. I also had a house rule that any character using a shield could use Str in place of Dex for AC calculations. Int saves: I moved a few Dex and Wis save spells into Int, generally anything where it felt like the possible impact could be calculated rather than reacted to. This impacted more monster abilities than spells, though. (Detect Thoughts and Guardian of Faith are examples I can think off from the top of my head.) I also had a feat that gave +1 to Int and allowed the use of Int for Dex saves. Cha saves: Generally anything that impacted the soul or overall "identity" of the target I moved to Cha. Compelled Duel, Suggestion, and Hold Person were three examples. Like Int, I had a feat that gave +1 to Cha and allowed the use of Cha for Wis saves. [/QUOTE]

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