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<blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 1230666" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>"Teutonic" in lieu of "Germanic", (precise, rather than superior) as the proper replacement for your term when discussing the origins of what is commonly referered to as "Norse Mythology" being my point. Here's a link (for some others following this discussion) to a page that is cache by Google and no longer exists (unfortunately)-</p><p></p><p><a href="http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:2-kur6jytAgJ:www.hostkingdom.net/Teutons.html+teutons&hl=en&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:2-kur6jytAgJ:www.hostkingdom.net/Teutons.html+teutons&hl=en&ie=UTF-8</a></p><p></p><p>-which details early tribal timelines. IMO, "Germanic" is not a precise term to use when discussing "Norse Mythology and it's origins and proliferation" southward into the tribal lands of, shall we say, proto-Europe, and beyond. Most of the tribes that I believe you would term as "Germanic" that influenced what is now considered "Norse Mythology" were most likely influenced in their mythologies by the Tuetons whose history predates them by a couple of millenia, if my understanding is correct.</p><p></p><p>Some tribes that fall under what you term as "Germanic" that were not influenced by the earlier Teutons, such as those to the far south of the regions the Romans sweepingly labeled "Germania" and did not embrace Teutonic Mythology don't factor in and thus make using "Germanic" further imprecise.</p><p></p><p>Some maps to help illustrate the origins of the term "Germania"</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.dalton.org/groups/Rome/RMap.html" target="_blank">http://www.dalton.org/groups/Rome/RMap.html</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.ku.edu/history/index/europe/ancient_rome/E/Gazetteer/Maps/Periods/Roman/Places/Europe/Germania/1.html" target="_blank">http://www.ku.edu/history/index/europe/ancient_rome/E/Gazetteer/Maps/Periods/Roman/Places/Europe/Germania/1.html</a></p><p></p><p>I'm not questioning your calling some tribes of early Europe as Germanic but rather your applying that term to the influence of "Norse Mythology". It's seems to me that would be like saying that cars as we know them today are influenced primarily by the "Chryslers" when it might be better to say the "Fords", so to speak.</p><p></p><p>So when you say -</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I contend that it is <em>too</em> broad a term since the term encompasses far too much that had little or nothing to do with what is now considered "Norse Mythology" and would suggest that "Teutonic" is consequently more precise. Only those "Germanic" tribes influenced by the Teutons (and others) could be said to represent the influence on what is now considered "Norse" mythology, no?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark, post: 1230666, member: 5"] "Teutonic" in lieu of "Germanic", (precise, rather than superior) as the proper replacement for your term when discussing the origins of what is commonly referered to as "Norse Mythology" being my point. Here's a link (for some others following this discussion) to a page that is cache by Google and no longer exists (unfortunately)- [url]http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:2-kur6jytAgJ:www.hostkingdom.net/Teutons.html+teutons&hl=en&ie=UTF-8[/url] -which details early tribal timelines. IMO, "Germanic" is not a precise term to use when discussing "Norse Mythology and it's origins and proliferation" southward into the tribal lands of, shall we say, proto-Europe, and beyond. Most of the tribes that I believe you would term as "Germanic" that influenced what is now considered "Norse Mythology" were most likely influenced in their mythologies by the Tuetons whose history predates them by a couple of millenia, if my understanding is correct. Some tribes that fall under what you term as "Germanic" that were not influenced by the earlier Teutons, such as those to the far south of the regions the Romans sweepingly labeled "Germania" and did not embrace Teutonic Mythology don't factor in and thus make using "Germanic" further imprecise. Some maps to help illustrate the origins of the term "Germania" [url]http://www.dalton.org/groups/Rome/RMap.html[/url] [url]http://www.ku.edu/history/index/europe/ancient_rome/E/Gazetteer/Maps/Periods/Roman/Places/Europe/Germania/1.html[/url] I'm not questioning your calling some tribes of early Europe as Germanic but rather your applying that term to the influence of "Norse Mythology". It's seems to me that would be like saying that cars as we know them today are influenced primarily by the "Chryslers" when it might be better to say the "Fords", so to speak. So when you say - I contend that it is [i]too[/i] broad a term since the term encompasses far too much that had little or nothing to do with what is now considered "Norse Mythology" and would suggest that "Teutonic" is consequently more precise. Only those "Germanic" tribes influenced by the Teutons (and others) could be said to represent the influence on what is now considered "Norse" mythology, no? [/QUOTE]
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