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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Giltonio_Santos" data-source="post: 7979981" data-attributes="member: 36874">If you consult the chapter on Time and Movement, you'll get a base climbing chance for every character. As a 2e DM (yes, I still run AD&D 2e to this date), I consider thieving skills to be a special ability that runs apart from the base system. For example, every character can try to sneak past a guard, rolling a Dexterity check against the guard's Wisdom check. A thief, though, has a base chance of moving silently past that same guard, no matter how high his Wisdom score is because that's a special ability of the thief class. The same goes for stuff like hiding in shadows.Obviously, this explanation does not work for all thieving skills, and sometimes I see people complain that other classes cannot learn to open locks or find traps. I think those complaints are unfounded as long as you're not also complaining that thieves cannot specialize in weapons or learn to cast spells. At that point, you'd better find a classless system to play.</blockquote>