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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 5654751" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>Easy there, Tiger. You made the original statement. I suppose you must have realized it would raise eyebrows by the way you couched it. BTW, someone doesn't need to look for "tipoffs" and certainly when you open with "Let's face it (. . .)," it's going to be seen as a red flag by anyone who reads the statement that follows. It's like someone beginning by saying "Let's be honest (. . .)" or "As we all know (. . .)" or some other phrase meant to strengthen the statement that follows with universality or truth.</p><p></p><p>But on to the conversation . . .</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not about you or me. We can both hope the indicators are right, together.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's odd because it runs counter to the indicators. Here's another. Most of the gamers I know over thirty have children and most of them become gamers when they reach a certain age (sometimes a handful of years or more depending on the parents). As to any agenda you might have, hidden or otherwise, it's also possible you just do these things unintentionally, accidentally, and whatnot. It does seem to happen fairly often but I don't think we need to chalk it up to some master plan. It would probably be better thought out and executed if it was an actual agenda.</p><p></p><p>It's also odd to request conversation, then call my nostalgic memory "crap", then claim to "come in peace." It doesn't quite line up.</p><p></p><p>No one is asking you to explain why you needed to add the first part of your post and then limit the thread to the other part. I simply mentioned it (" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I often get a kick of the premises of your threads which seem to run counter to actual fact. They're sometimes very interesting threads, like this one, that begin with odd assumptions shored up by some sort of caveat regarding how it is, in your mind, an inarguable fact. It brightens my day. Thanks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ") and then I moved on to waxing nostalgic. We could have left it at that and we could just leave it at this. It was up to you before and is again. I've asked no question to "push" you into any position or compel you. I've certainly presented some facts for you to think over regarding your stance that the hobby is dying or greying or whatever you thinnk it is, but you can ignore those too. Personally, I'm optimistic about the future of tabletop hobby gaming. I enjoy my memories of times past but I don't live there anymore. Some thing from then are just as enjoyable today as they were then too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, it seems you're done discussing snacks from the old days. That's for sure. Did you want to discuss how you used to be able to just sign out space at some rec centers in the Seventies rather than pay huge fees? That's kinda groggy for you if I shake my head while saying it, right? How about the basketball court sized game of the wargame Jutland I mentioned? I don't see a lot of that anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 5654751, member: 10479"] Easy there, Tiger. You made the original statement. I suppose you must have realized it would raise eyebrows by the way you couched it. BTW, someone doesn't need to look for "tipoffs" and certainly when you open with "Let's face it (. . .)," it's going to be seen as a red flag by anyone who reads the statement that follows. It's like someone beginning by saying "Let's be honest (. . .)" or "As we all know (. . .)" or some other phrase meant to strengthen the statement that follows with universality or truth. But on to the conversation . . . It's not about you or me. We can both hope the indicators are right, together. It's odd because it runs counter to the indicators. Here's another. Most of the gamers I know over thirty have children and most of them become gamers when they reach a certain age (sometimes a handful of years or more depending on the parents). As to any agenda you might have, hidden or otherwise, it's also possible you just do these things unintentionally, accidentally, and whatnot. It does seem to happen fairly often but I don't think we need to chalk it up to some master plan. It would probably be better thought out and executed if it was an actual agenda. It's also odd to request conversation, then call my nostalgic memory "crap", then claim to "come in peace." It doesn't quite line up. No one is asking you to explain why you needed to add the first part of your post and then limit the thread to the other part. I simply mentioned it (" :D I often get a kick of the premises of your threads which seem to run counter to actual fact. They're sometimes very interesting threads, like this one, that begin with odd assumptions shored up by some sort of caveat regarding how it is, in your mind, an inarguable fact. It brightens my day. Thanks. :D ") and then I moved on to waxing nostalgic. We could have left it at that and we could just leave it at this. It was up to you before and is again. I've asked no question to "push" you into any position or compel you. I've certainly presented some facts for you to think over regarding your stance that the hobby is dying or greying or whatever you thinnk it is, but you can ignore those too. Personally, I'm optimistic about the future of tabletop hobby gaming. I enjoy my memories of times past but I don't live there anymore. Some thing from then are just as enjoyable today as they were then too. Well, it seems you're done discussing snacks from the old days. That's for sure. Did you want to discuss how you used to be able to just sign out space at some rec centers in the Seventies rather than pay huge fees? That's kinda groggy for you if I shake my head while saying it, right? How about the basketball court sized game of the wargame Jutland I mentioned? I don't see a lot of that anymore. [/QUOTE]
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