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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8930304" data-attributes="member: 6779310">Echo chamber. Ron Edwards was fond of telling people they didn't actually know what they liked.Including me. Ron was wrong, and was in the wrong.&nbsp; Further, he kept redefining terms in search of &quot;the big model&quot;... Which is why the Forgite Dialect was a problem - it wasn't stable until The Forge shut down.He drove away, or sometimes even banned, anyone who challenged&nbsp; his every changing view.This is not to cast shade upon his initial GSN model as initially released in the article, System Matters, and as reprinted in Sorcerer. Sorcerer is a rather brilliant narrowly focused game. The article is also brilliant. But Ron's initial step in movement to the big model was to ignore/deny that there are gradients between the 3 labels, that people could find different balances of the threeEvery word/phrase you highlighted is jargon.&nbsp; And one of them is jargon best defined with another jargon term. You just don't realize it, probably because the terms have very similar use for RPGs and computer/console games. <ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Campaign: multiple scenarios, usually with the outcome of one scenario altering the setup of the next</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Co-operative - in boardgames, this means one of &quot;1 vs many&quot; or &quot;all vs the game&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Choice Driven - implies that there's little to no randomization. It may also have a knock-on effect of also having low replay value.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Multiple Sessions - Implies that a given scenario isn't doable in a single 2-3 hour session.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Scenario - a specific starting condition for the game, (which may or may not be flexible) with specified end, and usually also victory and/or loss conditions.</li>
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[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 8930304, member: 6779310"] Echo chamber. Ron Edwards was fond of telling people they didn't actually know what they liked. Including me. Ron was wrong, and was in the wrong. Further, he kept redefining terms in search of "the big model"... Which is why the Forgite Dialect was a problem - it wasn't stable until The Forge shut down. He drove away, or sometimes even banned, anyone who challenged his every changing view. This is not to cast shade upon his initial GSN model as initially released in the article, [I]System Matters[/I], and as reprinted in [I][U]Sorcerer[/U][/I]. [I][U]Sorcerer [/U][/I]is a rather brilliant narrowly focused game. The article is also brilliant. But Ron's initial step in movement to the big model was to ignore/deny that there are gradients between the 3 labels, that people could find different balances of the three Every word/phrase you highlighted is jargon. And one of them is jargon best defined with another jargon term. You just don't realize it, probably because the terms have very similar use for RPGs and computer/console games. [LIST] [*]Campaign: multiple scenarios, usually with the outcome of one scenario altering the setup of the next [*]Co-operative - in boardgames, this means one of "1 vs many" or "all vs the game" [*]Choice Driven - implies that there's little to no randomization. It may also have a knock-on effect of also having low replay value. [*]Multiple Sessions - Implies that a given scenario isn't doable in a single 2-3 hour session. [*]Scenario - a specific starting condition for the game, (which may or may not be flexible) with specified end, and usually also victory and/or loss conditions. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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