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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8933529" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>Quoting myself, there might be something in religion as the (or a) comparative.</p><p></p><p>When I read a book or view a movie, the relationship is reasonably tightly subject (me) to object (book or movie.) When I play an RPG (and already, I am forced to caveat by specifying non-solo) I am part of a group involved in ritualised activities.</p><p></p><p>Subject is complex. Our principles as a society come into play along with principles defining our orientation to the game.</p><p></p><p>Object is complex. Our principles as interpreters come very strongly into play in translating the principles of the designer into the actual play. I feel like the record of debate on forums like this one suggests that the meaning of rules is more frequently and intensely contingent than the meaning of the written phrases comprising a linear narrative. And riding on top of that web of meaning - whatever we have interpreted it to be - is the foam of our shared imagined space: itself an object of our play. And more - what I have said so far is very obviously incomplete!</p><p></p><p>Unsurprisingly then, we experience arguments that have trappings of religious positions. One group might find that another's carefully worked out explanations or theories not only have no meaning in their paradigm, but may be hostile or destructive to meaning in their paradigm. I think [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER] expressed something like this (although they will speak best for themselves as to if that is right.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8933529, member: 71699"] Quoting myself, there might be something in religion as the (or a) comparative. When I read a book or view a movie, the relationship is reasonably tightly subject (me) to object (book or movie.) When I play an RPG (and already, I am forced to caveat by specifying non-solo) I am part of a group involved in ritualised activities. Subject is complex. Our principles as a society come into play along with principles defining our orientation to the game. Object is complex. Our principles as interpreters come very strongly into play in translating the principles of the designer into the actual play. I feel like the record of debate on forums like this one suggests that the meaning of rules is more frequently and intensely contingent than the meaning of the written phrases comprising a linear narrative. And riding on top of that web of meaning - whatever we have interpreted it to be - is the foam of our shared imagined space: itself an object of our play. And more - what I have said so far is very obviously incomplete! Unsurprisingly then, we experience arguments that have trappings of religious positions. One group might find that another's carefully worked out explanations or theories not only have no meaning in their paradigm, but may be hostile or destructive to meaning in their paradigm. I think [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER] expressed something like this (although they will speak best for themselves as to if that is right.) [/QUOTE]
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