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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8933864" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I think you meant Captain America: Civil War.But you could do a lot of good work comparing the two. Starting with the nature of self-reflexivity (famously, 8 1/2 is a very self-aware and self-reflective work, and this work by the Russos is staggeringly self-aware as well) in both pieces. Going on to the themes of alienation from modernity, which is certainly present in both- either as deeper themes or as homage.From there, you could move on to the shared visual grammar in the films, which is easy to discuss given the widespread and neutral terminology used in films! Arguably, this would be the easiest given the heavy influence that 8 1/2 has on so much later cinema ... including ... Captain America: Civil War.Perhaps you're rolling your eyes when you look at this. Maybe you're thinking, &quot;Oh, I choose poorly. That happens to be one of those Marvel movies that was at least attempting a little more.&quot; Or maybe you think the whole thing is ridiculous because 8 1/2 is &quot;art,&quot; and MCU movies aren't.I mean ... the point is that they are comparable. You can discuss them in relation to each other. Would it make more sense to talk about 8 1/2 in terms of, say, Irma Vep? And Civil War in terms of De Palma's oeuvre*? Sure! But not nearly as fun!*Quick- genius, or schlock?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8933864, member: 7023840"] I think you meant [I]Captain America: Civil War.[/I] But you could do a lot of good work comparing the two. Starting with the nature of self-reflexivity (famously, [I]8 1/2[/I] is a very self-aware and self-reflective work, and this work by the Russos is staggeringly self-aware as well) in both pieces. Going on to the themes of alienation from modernity, which is certainly present in both- either as deeper themes or as homage. From there, you could move on to the shared visual grammar in the films, which is easy to discuss given the widespread and neutral terminology used in films! Arguably, this would be the easiest given the heavy influence that [I]8 1/2[/I] has on so much later cinema ... including ... [I]Captain America: Civil War[/I]. Perhaps you're rolling your eyes when you look at this. Maybe you're thinking, "Oh, I choose poorly. That happens to be one of those Marvel movies that was at least attempting a little more." Or maybe you think the whole thing is ridiculous because [I]8 1/2[/I] is "art," and MCU movies aren't. I mean ... the point is that they are comparable. You can discuss them in relation to each other. Would it make more sense to talk about [I]8 1/2[/I] in terms of, say, [I]Irma Vep[/I]? And[I] Civil War [/I]in terms of De Palma's oeuvre*? Sure! But not nearly as fun! *Quick- genius, or schlock? [/QUOTE]

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