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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 8935152" data-attributes="member: 48965">I'm talking about you claiming their marketing (or any marketing) necessarily reflected on the actual design.&nbsp; You're supposedly a scholar of ttrpg's so I'll ask again, do you really think the design of 5e calls back to the actual rules and procedures of past editions?&nbsp; They were for the most part rules heavy and had plenty of prescribed procedures for gameplay (and this includes both 3.x and 4e)... 5e doesn't, it calls back to what people, for the most part, actually did with those previous editions during actual play.&nbsp; If anything I believe that is why so many people enjoy it and that is why it's so easy to pick up for many (they are creating their own bespoke game of D&amp;D that runs the way they want it to)... but also why it gets so much slack from those who desire hardcoding or who advocate for procedures and system matters.&nbsp; Ok so NOW we can discuss things outside of 5e to make points.&nbsp; I'd love to see some actual statistics on this.&nbsp; From my understanding there are a few QB's who played baseball and claimed it helped them... but if what you are claiming above we should see way greater numbers of cross-pollination in sports... and for the most part we don't.&nbsp; Also this could be chalked up to a greater general athletic ability in certain people as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 8935152, member: 48965"] I'm talking about you claiming their marketing (or any marketing) necessarily reflected on the actual design. You're supposedly a scholar of ttrpg's so I'll ask again, do you really think the design of 5e calls back to the actual rules and procedures of past editions? They were for the most part rules heavy and had plenty of prescribed procedures for gameplay (and this includes both 3.x and 4e)... 5e doesn't, it calls back to what people, for the most part, actually did with those previous editions during actual play. If anything I believe that is why so many people enjoy it and that is why it's so easy to pick up for many (they are creating their own bespoke game of D&D that runs the way they want it to)... but also why it gets so much slack from those who desire hardcoding or who advocate for procedures and system matters. Ok so NOW we can discuss things outside of 5e to make points. I'd love to see some actual statistics on this. From my understanding there are a few QB's who played baseball and claimed it helped them... but if what you are claiming above we should see way greater numbers of cross-pollination in sports... and for the most part we don't. Also this could be chalked up to a greater general athletic ability in certain people as well. [/QUOTE]

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