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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 8937047" data-attributes="member: 48965">Struggle in what way?&nbsp; Pushback against what exactly.&nbsp; When I pushback against a term like MMI, or being talked to condescendingly, or being told there's a double standard of required knowledge to be taken seriously in the discussion (and of course trad games require less, because reasons)... it has nothing to do with a trad playstyle being my assumption.Interestingly enough this particular thread was started by someone different than the usual driver of these types of discussion... though there was what I would call a sideshot taken about what they had done in the time we spent discussing discussion... and wasn't started in the typical fashion of those threads either.&nbsp; Maybe it really is about approach.I'm having a hard time following our back and forth in a logical and consistent manner... I was very much talking about previous examples of these types of discussions and thought I made that clear, but if I didn't then I apologize and will clarify here, this thread has been amazingly civil for the most part but previous threads have been anything but.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 8937047, member: 48965"] Struggle in what way? Pushback against what exactly. When I pushback against a term like MMI, or being talked to condescendingly, or being told there's a double standard of required knowledge to be taken seriously in the discussion (and of course trad games require less, because reasons)... it has nothing to do with a trad playstyle being my assumption. Interestingly enough this particular thread was started by someone different than the usual driver of these types of discussion... though there was what I would call a sideshot taken about what they had done in the time we spent discussing discussion... and wasn't started in the typical fashion of those threads either. Maybe it really is about approach. I'm having a hard time following our back and forth in a logical and consistent manner... I was very much talking about previous examples of these types of discussions and thought I made that clear, but if I didn't then I apologize and will clarify here, this thread has been amazingly civil for the most part but previous threads have been anything but. [/QUOTE]

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