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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8937129" data-attributes="member: 6795602">It's interesting to me that if you take away the specific complaints, the essence of what I complain about on this thread and what you complain about is essentially the same.  We don't like others viewing our playstyles as having less of things that we value.  And I agree it does come across very elitist.One thing that's helping me recently is trying to figure out what kernel of truth the lens they are using is showing and then not going any further than that.  Understanding that kernel of truth helps me talk about where it's true and where it stops being true.  Which leads to me not completely undermining their contribution which hopefully results in them not trying to reexplain their position to me as if I didn't get it, which just makes things bad.  Instead we can actually get to the point of discussion where they can tell me whether they really view my position in such bad terms, or whether I was carrying over baggage from previous conversations.  In either case I can then take action with solid knowledge - they really do 'hate' my style or they weren't saying as much about my style as i originally thought.Let me be very clear - i don't view your style as less consistent, immersive or 'less of a sense of a world beyond the character' in any general sense (though i'm sure certain people would experience it exactly those ways).</blockquote>