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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8937299" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>I don't think the pejorative labels have much use. I explained why about each one. Any truth that they have is flawed, or missing something vital that renders the term problematic. Of them all, "pictionary" seemed the most benign, but even that one seems to trivialize the role of the players; it fits the idea of play as "guesswork" which I generally don't agree with. </p><p></p><p>I explained that if someone leveled a criticism of a kind of game along the lines of these things... meaning they didn't just say "that's mother may I" but instead explained why, and the implications of such and so on... that's one thing. If someone takes the time to explain the criticism, then that's one thing. But as general labels, they all suck. </p><p></p><p>But we're not really delving into discussion of the styles here. We're just talking about the labels. If you want to expand on why you think one of these labels is accurate beyond a few words, great.... have at it. I'll happily discuss that. </p><p></p><p>Let's look at the initial exchange:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So let's discuss this. What do you think is the meaningful difference between the two methods mentioned here: pre-authoring material or generating at the time of play. How does each impact play? Why do you prefer one to the other? Do you have any examples from play that you can share that display a strength of either?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 8937299, member: 6785785"] I don't think the pejorative labels have much use. I explained why about each one. Any truth that they have is flawed, or missing something vital that renders the term problematic. Of them all, "pictionary" seemed the most benign, but even that one seems to trivialize the role of the players; it fits the idea of play as "guesswork" which I generally don't agree with. I explained that if someone leveled a criticism of a kind of game along the lines of these things... meaning they didn't just say "that's mother may I" but instead explained why, and the implications of such and so on... that's one thing. If someone takes the time to explain the criticism, then that's one thing. But as general labels, they all suck. But we're not really delving into discussion of the styles here. We're just talking about the labels. If you want to expand on why you think one of these labels is accurate beyond a few words, great.... have at it. I'll happily discuss that. Let's look at the initial exchange: So let's discuss this. What do you think is the meaningful difference between the two methods mentioned here: pre-authoring material or generating at the time of play. How does each impact play? Why do you prefer one to the other? Do you have any examples from play that you can share that display a strength of either? [/QUOTE]
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